Strange bullet

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Ozzieman

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I was wondering if anyone has seen this bullet before.
At a gun show this weekend I picked up a box of mixed 30 caliber bullets. Several hundred had been pulled out of mid 50's army surplus (176 gr) and 40+ of the 3 seen in this photo were in the same box with other mixed.
These are 225GR and the metal in the hollow point looks like lead but is VERY hard.
The odd coloring at the base was from heavy lacquer that I have removed by tumbling in walnut shells. They had a lot of green on them before that.
I don't know if I have much use for them other than plinking in my Ishipor but the price of the 176's (about 5 cents) who cares.
 
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Peters made a belted bullet way back when as a way to control expansion. the bullet example I have looks just like the belted bullets you have except the bullet belt is silver colored. I found the explanation in a Phil Sharpe old reloading book so you can see it was a long time ago
 
I have no idea what they are, but they have one heck of bearing surface. They would be amazing for firelapping barrels.
 
Out of curiosity,I did some RWS searching .I went to the RWS web page,and looked at their current ammunition.They have a bullet that looks a lot like that bullet with a nose cap.
They call that front band shoulder a "hair cutting edge" .
I also searched "Vintage RWS" and looked at images.I saw some more of that band and edge.
I'd call that bullet "Of German fashion" myself
 
Is it my eyes or does the dia of the bullet taper down above the cannelure? It looks like a bore riding bullet but I have no idea of what it is.

What's the total length of the bullet?
 
These are 225GR and the metal in the hollow point looks like lead but is VERY hard.
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Probably tarnished silver.
There were rumors of a special unit of the resistance in Germany, during WW2, made up of very large werewolves.
Hence, the silver bullets.
Just a wild guess, of course, though. :)
 
All good suggestions. I measured 3 bullets the data is below. The canalure has very little indent from the case of the mouth,
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[FONT="Fixedsys"]Location       		  #1	          #2	          #3	        Average
          	
Base          		0.305	0.307	0.305	0.305666
Below canalure	0.308	0.304	0.307	0.306333
Canalure      		0.303	0.305	0.308	0.305
Above canalure	0.305	0.307	0.308	0.306666        
first ring    		0.299	0.293	0.296	0.296
Top ring      		0.242	0.244	0.250       0.244666
Length        		1.355	1.356	1.352	1.354333[/FONT]
 
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From what I can find now that I know the name there was silver band (170 GR) and the copper band (225gr). It was called a compound bullet construction.
The photo that I found is one that has been dissected. They were originally made for the 30-40 Krag.
Looks like an expensive bullet to manufacture. From the one original description I wonder what the "RUSTLESS" means
Thanks every one.


Peters Item No. 3090: ".30 Springfield, 1903, RUSTLESS, Belted Non-Disintegrating, Expanding, 225 grs."
 
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Might I suggest that it may not be a good idea to mess around with unknown military ammunition or projectiles. Most of the stuff that looks odd probably is benign, but the U.S. and other nations have done things with small arms ammunition that would (or should) scare the hell out of most of us if we knew about it. We generally know about explosive bullets, tracers, incendiaries, etc., but one kind I know about would kill you and everyone in the house, maybe even in the town, if it were pounded on or fired.

Jim
 
I have bullets that look like the bullets pictured by the OP. I do not have bullets with bands added, I do have bullets with inserts, not much chance the tips will get hot enough to melt. Traveling at 2,800 fps, who knows?

F. Guffey
 
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I think I might know a bullet collector that might be interested in those.

If you'd like I can IM him on another site and ask him.
 
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