Store owner charged with carrying a gun for protection

Store owner's gun becomes a trial

He's shot it out with robbers; now he's charged with carrying concealed weapon in his shop

By Dave Doege of the Journal Sentinel staff
Last Updated: June 18, 2000

Munir Hamdan unlocks the door of his family's small food market each business day for the customers who call him Mike and make him feel part of the neighborhood.

"I feel welcome here," Hamdan said on a sunny afternoon in his store. "I've been here for 12 years, and the people in the neighborhood want me to stay here."

But the 2400 block of W. Capitol Drive can be as lawless as it is friendly.

Between 1997 and 1999, the neighborhood that sends Capitol Foods its customers experienced six homicides, 98 robberies, 94 aggravated batteries and 16 rapes, according to Police Department statistics.

One of the murders - an execution, really - happened on the sidewalk outside Hamdan's store and three of the holdups occurred with him or one of his sons facing the barrel of a robber's pistol.

One masked robber put his pistol to the side of Hamdan's head and pulled the trigger. Somehow the bullet didn't come out, Hamdan said of why he lived through that stickup.

Another gun on another day did fire a bullet when a robber pulled a trigger, but he wound up dead when Hamdan and his two sons returned fire with guns of their own.

"In this neighborhood you don't always know who's coming in the door," Hamdan aid. "Some of the people are crazy. There's a shooting once a week in this neighborhood."

It's because of those people that Hamdan made it a habit to have a pistol in his pocket or at his side from the time that he unlocks his front door in the morning until the time he locks it at night.

Central city merchants like Hamdan know that any given workday holds the potential for a life or death struggle.

On Wednesday, another central city store operator pulled out his gun and fatally shot a man who tried to rob him with a butcher knife, according to police.

Last month, the owner of still another inner city neighborhood market was killed when he was shot in the face during a holdup.

But Hamdan's habit of packing a pistol at work has left him in trouble with the law and facing a trial next month on a charge of carrying a concealed weapon.

And though all of a judge's rulings have gone against him so far, Hamdan and his lawyer feel they have no choice but to take the case to trial.

"Each day he opens his door to an environment that can be very violent," explained Hamdan's attorney, Jorge A. Gomez. "It's very important to him to feel secure in that environment, and that's the bottom line here."

Hamdan, 54, has operated Capitol Foods, 2483 W. Capitol Drive, since 1987. His store is like other corner groceries scattered throughout tough neighborhoods the big supermarkets abandoned years ago.

It's the family business with his sons helping out at the cash register, his wife cooking meals in back and a grandchild who comes by to visit.

Bulletproof Glass

But the bulletproof glass installed three years ago around the checkout counter is a stark reminder of the danger that prompted Hamdan to always have a handgun at the ready. The glass went in after Hamdan and his sons had their February 1997 shootout with Chris A. Robinson, 29.

"He fired at my son first and my son fired back," Hamdan said. "Then there was firing back and forth between us all."

Robinson was the only one wounded and died on the sidewalk. Police seized all three of the family's guns, but after the district attorneys office concluded that Hamdan shot Robinson in self-defense, the pistols were returned and Hamdan continued keeping a gun in constant reach.

Usually it's under the counter, Hamdan explained.

"But if someone comes in and gives me a bad feeling, I put it in my pocket. That's the point of having a gun, so you can get it when you need it."

Before the bulletproof glass went in, according to Hamdan, one of those customers who gave him bad vibes got to the gun from behind the counter before Hamdan did and was out the door with it before the merchant could do anything about it.

"Police have stopped in my store many times and asked me if I have a gun," Hamdan said. "I always told them about the gun. Nobody ever said, 'Don't carry the gun in your pocket.' "

A Visit from Police

On Nov. 26, a pair of police officers who visited Hamdan's store to question him about his beer sales asked him if he had a gun.

He reached into the right-front pocket of his trousers and pulled out a loaded .32-caliber revolver.

Court records indicate that the officers weren't immediately certain about what to do.

After discussing the situation with Hamdan, they left with his gun and ordered him to appear the following week in the district attorney's office.

On Dec. 3, he was charged with carrying a concealed weapon, a misdemeanor that carries a jail term of up to nine months and a fine of up to $10,000.

Gomez, a former prosecutor who spent three years in the homicide unit of the district attorney's office before becoming a defense lawyer, subsequently filed motions asking that the case be dismissed.

"There is sufficient objective evidence that Mr. Hamdan is justified to carry a concealed weapon in his own store given the type of criminal activity that occurs in the area where his store is located," Gomez argued in the motion filed with Circuit Judge Robert Crawford.

"There is also sufficient subjective evidence that Mr. Hamdan has a reason to fear for the safety of his family and himself given the history of armed confrontations he has experienced as a store owner," Gomez said.

Constitution Cited

Gomez contended that a 1998 amendment to the state constitution concerning the right to keep and bear arms meant that the weapons charge as it was being applied to Hamdan is unjust.

"There is no suggestion by the defendant's affidavit or the police reports submitted by the defendant that he was facing an imminent danger at the time he possessed the loaded revolver," Assistant District Attorney Mary Sowinski countered.

"In fact, his argument that he needed to carry the gun for security is counter-intuitive to his chosen method of carrying a concealed weapon: a person's display of a handgun may deter crime while concealment would not," Sowinski said.

Crawford concluded that the concealed weapon charge was not being unjustly applied to Hamdan.

"The manner in which a person may bear arms for security, defense and other lawful purposes remains subject to regulation by laws enacted by the state legislature, notwithstanding the adoption of (the 1998 amendment)," Crawford wrote.

Crawford also subsequently denied Gomez's motion to present the same issues to the jury during Hamdan's trial.

Despite the rulings, Gomez and Hamdan say they will push the case to trial next month.

"It may only be a misdemeanor to some people, but it's important to Munir," Gomez said. "We're talking about the right to protect oneself in a high-crime atmosphere, an atmosphere where he has had to protect himself in the past."

As Hamdan summed up: "Put yourself in my place. What would you do? I keep the gun where I can get it when I need it."

Appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on June 19, 2000.
 
Politically motivated prosecution. The right of self defense includes not only one's home but also one's business. He's done nothing wrong.
 
Wow.

Most states allow concealed carrying of firearms without a permit on business property.

Wisconsin has always been a real problem for gunowners...

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Two states in the same time period did the exact opposite of each other: Georgia made it easier for citizens to aquire guns for self-defense and Wisconsin made it more difficult (anti-self-defense) for people to do the same. Guess who's crime plummeted?! DAH!

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coinneach:
A Visit from Police

On Nov. 26, a pair of police officers who visited Hamdan's store to question him about his beer sales asked him if he had a gun.

He reached into the right-front pocket of his trousers and pulled out a loaded .32-caliber revolver.

Court records indicate that the officers weren't immediately certain about what to do.

After discussing the situation with Hamdan, they left with his gun and ordered him to appear the following week in the district attorney's office.

On Dec. 3, he was charged with carrying a concealed weapon, a misdemeanor that carries a jail term of up to nine months and a fine of up to $10,000.
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We are the police and we are here to help you!!!

Skyhawk
 
Seems like we oughta get taht prosecutor a night job at the local Stop&Rob, see if it helps her get in touch with reality. M2
 
Just when I get to thinking that living here in Wisconsin isn't that bad...

Just got off the phone with Hamdan's attorney. Mr. Hamdan believes it is his right to carry concealed in his store, and will fight the charges. The attorney thinks this could be a test case for Wisconsin's RKBA amendment as an individual right. If the city doesn't back down, there will probably be a defense fund set up to challenge this as far as it can go.

Something I never knew was that it is illegal to here to carry concealed _even in your own home_! :mad:
Dick
 
Yes, it's illegal to carry a firearm in the People's Republik of Wiskonsin. So I do it anyway. I refuse DIE (or have my family harmed or killed) to satisfy their fascist doctrine and unconstitutional "laws". If arrested, I'll defend on the 2nd.
 
Nothing like being given a reason to lie to the police in the future. Makes me wonder what would have been next if he had lied & said NO? Now why in asking about beer sales & then a gun does that lead to taking it away & then charging??? Did they ask just to set him up?
 
Its disgusting.
So play it for all it's worth with an election copming up. Always make the other side pay at the polls.
I sincerely hope the guy can get out of this, and if it can become an RKBA case on top of it of it all, so much the better.
And don't forget the name of this Mary Sowinski. Hang this around her head like the albatros she deserves. End her political career pronto. She has already revealed her true character and it is ugly.
 
From people I've spoken with, various police officers over the years advised Hamdan to have a gun. Good for those guys.

From a political perspective, if Hamdan is charged with this, it could make for a very good argument in favor of the CCW bill that's sitting in committee right now.

Dick
 
This got me thinking, I found a pretty good WEB site for all State Constitutions here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/statutes.html
I could only find this regarding AZ:

Arizona State Constitution
Article 2
Section 26 Bearing arms
The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.

And this from our Dept. of Public Safety concerning where you can’t concealed carry: http://www.dps.state.az.us/ccw/3102.htm

Let’s see; Nuclear Power Plants, Polling Places, School Grounds, during the commission of a felony, all not permitted. But I found nothing about carrying concealed in your home or business. Unless…

You read this, and construe a victimless crime out of it:
A.R.S. 13-3102 Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions;
A. A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:
1. Carrying a deadly weapon without a permit pursuant to section 13-3112 except a pocket knife concealed on his person;

Well, I guess it depends on your definition of a pocket knife.
anodes.
 
Perhaps a pocketknife like this?
ppk.jpg

My thanks and photocredit to vampiregerbil.
anodes.
 
God forbid that he defends himself and his property! This story makes me SICK SICK SICK! I wish that some people would wake up and realize that he wouldnt have to have a weapon to protect himself if we enforced our laws and kept criminals behind bars!!!!!

Is this not what RBKA is for? Im calling around this weekend and seeing where I can get my CCW. Although the 2nd gaurantees it. Why should I have to pay for the priveledge...grrrrr

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Try to take away my gun...and you will see my 2nd Amendment Right in ACTION!!! -Me

[This message has been edited by MrBigglesworth (edited June 21, 2000).]
 
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