Stoeger Double-Defense - Now in Over/Under

It immediately reminds me of a certain movie. It could be the base for a badass SBS.:cool:

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I wonder if they will fit extra barrels to the receiver?
 
oneounceload said:
still a cheap gun.......and not worthy of your life
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Kind of a pointless statement without explanation of why you think so.

(This also goes out to Crosshair) The word "cheap" implies low quality and poorly made. I would argue this is an inexpensive firearm, which is an entirely different matter. Did you perhaps accidentally use the wrong term as people often do? For instance, the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 are inexpensive. They are not cheap. The old "Saturday Night Specials" made by companies like Bryco and Jennings are examples of cheap guns.

Stoeger makes good firearms and has done so for a long time. They have a very solid rep in the industry. So it can't be the brand.
Many popular companies make shotguns that have proven very reliable at the same or lower price, like Mossberg, Remington, Weatherby, Benelli, etc. So it can't be the price.
The SxS double defense is denigrated for its stated purpose due to holding only 2 shells at a time, but aside from that all reviews on it are quite positive. So it can't be that it is a known cheap line of firearms.

So what is the issue?
 
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Every Stoger single trigger double barrel I have fired has a sneaky way of firing both barrels when you least expect it. One example I can think of will only fire one barrel when you least expect it.

They are cheap in both price an construction. Junk I calls 'em.

The two trigger guns are a different story.
 
Thanks, that is good feedback.

I didn't know about the issues with their single-trigger double barrels since all my research into Stoeger has been in regards to their semi-auto's and pumps, which are solid performers.
 
Have to agree with one ounce. Stoeger does not make firearms, they import them and over the years have brought in some really low quality stuff. Not all of their guns fit that description but I have shot the sxs and would not own one. The idea of a home defense if I am not wrong is to be the first with the most. Stoeger is just trying in my opinion to cash in on the HD market with rebadged shotguns.
 
I have seen some guys shoot trap twice a week for years with their shotguns and had no problems(probably 200 shots a week or more). They are a bit clunky, but they have functioned well.

Not sure why you would go for a double in a defensive situation unless you wanted it to look non-threatening, which the rails sort of nix. Seems many disagree with me though.
 
Not sure if there is much else to say other than it somehow looks a lot more aggressive than the SxS version.​
Aggressive looks may not deter anyone in the dark. It you are thinking of a double gun for HD, then a SxS has definite advantage over and O/U: It doesn't have to be opened as far to reload, so reloading is faster. The fact that I can break more targets with my beloved O/Us doesn't make them a good choice for HD. When something goes bump in the dark, you may need more than two quick shots.

I agree with with Willie Lowman, I wouldn't trust a single triggered double gun for HD. I've had a $1,200 P-gun trigger fail to fire the second shot because of a speck of cleaning rag lint in the wrong place. And, I've have the same thing happen because of coagulated lubricant. IMHO, for HD, a double gun requires two triggers and you need to train with them.

I concur with my learned friends, 1-oz and olddrum, about the quality of Stoeger guns.
 
Just got done fixing a stoeger for a friend. Safety had such shallow dimples it would come on under recoil.

NOT impressed with the fit, finish or steel the gun is made from. In fact the 2 pieces I cut on were the softest steel I have ever seen in a firearm. Hope the frame and barreles are made of better stuff. Oh yeah and I could already see wear in the latch.
 
We had a new shooter on the skeet range Saturday fighting a Stoeger O/U. It was hard to break open, had several misfires and was difficult to get the shells out of. Short and sweet, its garbage IMO.
NO WAY Id bet my life on one.
 
Stories about Stogers are everywhere, some bad and some good. I can only speak to my own experience. I have used a Condor Competition for trap for the last 2 years. Not a big shooter but it's well past 3000 shells. Had trouble with misfires at first. Found the stock was not properly inleted around the hammer spring, causing it to drag. Drilled out the relief hole and no problem since. Yes, the quality isn't that of the better known brands. It aspire to have a higher quality gun some day but the Stoger allows me to shoot on today's budget. An over-under with adjustable comb for $610, out the door, at Dick's fit the budget. Having good mechanical skills would be helpful with these guns.
 
There is a world of difference between a 870 express and the Stoeger O/U and SxS's. Never seen any serious malfunctions with the 870's. They're all too common with the Stoegers. One of the best shooters on our team shoots an 870 Express. He's shot numerous 25's in skeet and trap practice. When he finally gets over the competeion jitters, he will be hard to handle.
 
yes, it is good to make them think.

MY sig line is something I believe in - and in this case, there really IS a difference between low price and quality
 
First thing we should look for in defensive hardware is reliability. Dunno if the Stoegers have it, but for those that have them, I propose applying the Ayoob Test. First written about by Massad Ayoob maybe 30 years past.

Fire 200 rounds of Duty Ammo through it. If it does so glitchless, you have a defensive arm.

If not, you have a toy and/or trading material.....
 
I have a Condor and it's the closest thing I have for a home defense gun. Mine is very reliable. It's been shot many times. I've had no problems of any kind. Mine is a very reliable gun. I've shot many different kind of shells through it without issues. I keep 000 in a shellholder on the stock and I'd trust the gun with my life.
 
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