I would like to know if the problems w/slide peening/gritty trigger action/slide not cycling smoothly upon manually chambering a round/magazines not inserting into well smoothly ect.are a thing of the past,or do they still exist on the newer pistols being shipped?I really like the looks and feel of this gun,but am hesitant to buy after reading quite a few negative posts.Is there a specific serial# I should look for?Anyone's comments are appreciated,thanks...long shot!
Steyr M40, all the bugs worked out?
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Wild Billy
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Try to avoid the first series beginning with 002 # number.
The ones beginning with #005 are the new series.
I bought mine two weeks ago...only shot 60 rounds.
No problems at all and very accurate even at 25 yards.
For the moment it's to early to give a definite opinion about the M40.
The ones beginning with #005 are the new series.
I bought mine two weeks ago...only shot 60 rounds.
No problems at all and very accurate even at 25 yards.
For the moment it's to early to give a definite opinion about the M40.
I think they're worked out. I'll be picking up an M357 in a few weeks and post the results here, after shooting 500 rounds or so.
It's a super gun.
I haven't been able to squeeze out a serial number from GSI; they won't really do it. Right now I'm guessing that anything 5000 or greater would be considered an updated, smooth running machine.
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It's a super gun.
I haven't been able to squeeze out a serial number from GSI; they won't really do it. Right now I'm guessing that anything 5000 or greater would be considered an updated, smooth running machine.
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I'm not sure all the problems have been solved. I bought a M9 two weeks ago. The serial number is over 7000. I thought that I was getting one of later guns because the serial numbers on the other M9s I saw were in the 3000s. It is at GSI now.
I have fired 1100 rounds: 700 with Sellier and Bellot and 400 with Winchester USA. Twice in the last 500 rounds, the pistol has jammed. In each case, the slide was about 1/8 inch from fully closing, and I could not rack the slide. After hitting the back of the slide firmly with the palm of my hand three or four times, I was able to clear the jam. (Both jams happened with S&B.) Prior to the jams, the gun was not perfect. I had two stovepipes and three failures to eject. But as these happened in the first 300 rounds, I considered them break-in. Brass has also hit the top of my head or my safety glasses at least five times.
On the positive side, the gun has excellent ergonomics and low recoil and muzzle flip. I hope that GSI can solve the problem that I am having with the slide because I like the gun.
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I have fired 1100 rounds: 700 with Sellier and Bellot and 400 with Winchester USA. Twice in the last 500 rounds, the pistol has jammed. In each case, the slide was about 1/8 inch from fully closing, and I could not rack the slide. After hitting the back of the slide firmly with the palm of my hand three or four times, I was able to clear the jam. (Both jams happened with S&B.) Prior to the jams, the gun was not perfect. I had two stovepipes and three failures to eject. But as these happened in the first 300 rounds, I considered them break-in. Brass has also hit the top of my head or my safety glasses at least five times.
On the positive side, the gun has excellent ergonomics and low recoil and muzzle flip. I hope that GSI can solve the problem that I am having with the slide because I like the gun.
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David Roberson
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Guys, remember that not all of the M40s suffered from problems. Mine, purchased in February, remains trouble-free with everything from factory JHP to handloaded lead FN, and I will probably use it for CC if I can ever find a decent belt slide holster for it.
Cawdor,
When you get the M9 back, let us know what they said and how it's working. Thanks. I've hear of a number of other M9 owners who have had zero problems. I'm almost wondering if you got some faulty magazines. Ayoob was having M9 problems until he quit using a particular magazine.
I just ordered a Blade-Tech belt holster. They make some pretty good durable stuff.
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When you get the M9 back, let us know what they said and how it's working. Thanks. I've hear of a number of other M9 owners who have had zero problems. I'm almost wondering if you got some faulty magazines. Ayoob was having M9 problems until he quit using a particular magazine.
I just ordered a Blade-Tech belt holster. They make some pretty good durable stuff.
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re: The M357
The GSI rep said the M357's will hit the U.S. at the end of May (that's four weeks and counting)!!!!
The GSI rep said that he's received reports that the M357 is the best of the bunch. I'm guessing that the extremely low bore axis and the very accurate 357SIG round is an excellent combination. Felt recoil should also be less than a Glock 32. But we'll see <G>
The GSI rep said the M357's will hit the U.S. at the end of May (that's four weeks and counting)!!!!
The GSI rep said that he's received reports that the M357 is the best of the bunch. I'm guessing that the extremely low bore axis and the very accurate 357SIG round is an excellent combination. Felt recoil should also be less than a Glock 32. But we'll see <G>
petej88,
Just Winchester USA and Sellier and Bellot. I had no problems with the Winchester, but I also fired fewer rounds with it. When something happens twice in 1100 rounds, you can't be sure whether it is the gun, the ammunition, or something else (like me). However, when I spoke to the gunsmith at GSI, he was aware of the problem that I described. He said that on the earlier models the hole for the firing pin was too small, and that GSI has a fix for it. I should have the gun back in two weeks. I'll let you know what happens.
Just Winchester USA and Sellier and Bellot. I had no problems with the Winchester, but I also fired fewer rounds with it. When something happens twice in 1100 rounds, you can't be sure whether it is the gun, the ammunition, or something else (like me). However, when I spoke to the gunsmith at GSI, he was aware of the problem that I described. He said that on the earlier models the hole for the firing pin was too small, and that GSI has a fix for it. I should have the gun back in two weeks. I'll let you know what happens.
From the feedback of the Steyr owners, I get the feeling that GSI is banking heavily on the fact that the Steyr M series will be taking off, and will compete directly and very well against the Glocks in which they evolved from. The rate at which GSI/Steyr is fixing problems looks like a Linux kernel development to me! Really good turnaround time in addressing the problems, and omitting that there are problems and coming up with solutions. That's what I like to see. I can't stand it when a gun company says "Problems, what problems? It must be in your head."
I'm looking to buy a Steyr M357. So I eagerly await the bugs to be worked out of them.
The lower bore axis and great performance of the 357Sig should make the M357 a real killer of a gun.
Any real word on the M45 and when it's due?
Albert
I'm looking to buy a Steyr M357. So I eagerly await the bugs to be worked out of them.
The lower bore axis and great performance of the 357Sig should make the M357 a real killer of a gun.
Any real word on the M45 and when it's due?
Albert
M9 Update - I got the pistol back from GSI. According to the service order, GSI replaced the firing pin, polished the firing pin hole, and checked the ejector and the reset action. The gunsmith also told me that he changed some parts, including the sear. Last weekend I fired 150 rounds of Sellier and Bellot and 150 rounds of Winchester USA. Four failures to eject with the S&B and one with the Winchester. Today I fired 200 rounds of S&B and 100 rounds of PMP/Denel. Three failures to eject with the S&B; none with the PMP. In all but one instance, the case is clearing the chamber, but not ejecting. It has happened with both magazines. Any ideas? Is anybody using S&B in your M9? Any problems?
The pistol continues to toss brass back at me, including one that wedged between my forehead and my safety glasses. Is anyone else being hit by the brass?
Trigger Pull - Since the gun was at GSI, I asked to the gunsmith to verify that the trigger pull was within the factory specification of 5.5 lbs. Mine was at 8. He told me that he would be able to get it to about 6.5. He also told me that the gun would not fire reliably with a pull of 5.5 lbs. Apparently the factory specification of 5.5 lbs. is optimistic.
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The pistol continues to toss brass back at me, including one that wedged between my forehead and my safety glasses. Is anyone else being hit by the brass?
Trigger Pull - Since the gun was at GSI, I asked to the gunsmith to verify that the trigger pull was within the factory specification of 5.5 lbs. Mine was at 8. He told me that he would be able to get it to about 6.5. He also told me that the gun would not fire reliably with a pull of 5.5 lbs. Apparently the factory specification of 5.5 lbs. is optimistic.
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Cawdor,
Watch out. I'm "assuming" that because of manufacturing efficiency, what applies to the m40 applies to the m9 in general. For example, I was told that the m9 didn't need the ejector port fix, but they do it anyway.
You should call GSI for the specifics. They should be able to upgrade your model accordingly. BUT, there's a possibility it could be your ammo. Sounds almost like you have some really weak ammo that barely cycles the gun. You might have to send GSI some ammo along with your gun so they can make an accurate linux/Steyr ascertation as to what is going on. Maybe the spring is too strong?
As far as my m40 goes, it's a 10,000 something serial number and the brass ejection is totally dependent on how strong my reloads are. I have some low end stuff that barely cycles the slide and very lightly spits the brass out to my feet. I have full power loads that shoot the brass over 10 feet away.
You're not one of those raggedy Ann limp wristers are you
Good luck.
ps: The m357 is now scheduled for late June or early July. Apparently the Steyr folks in Austria are really happy with the m357 version. I can hardly wait
Watch out. I'm "assuming" that because of manufacturing efficiency, what applies to the m40 applies to the m9 in general. For example, I was told that the m9 didn't need the ejector port fix, but they do it anyway.
You should call GSI for the specifics. They should be able to upgrade your model accordingly. BUT, there's a possibility it could be your ammo. Sounds almost like you have some really weak ammo that barely cycles the gun. You might have to send GSI some ammo along with your gun so they can make an accurate linux/Steyr ascertation as to what is going on. Maybe the spring is too strong?
As far as my m40 goes, it's a 10,000 something serial number and the brass ejection is totally dependent on how strong my reloads are. I have some low end stuff that barely cycles the slide and very lightly spits the brass out to my feet. I have full power loads that shoot the brass over 10 feet away.
You're not one of those raggedy Ann limp wristers are you
Good luck.
ps: The m357 is now scheduled for late June or early July. Apparently the Steyr folks in Austria are really happy with the m357 version. I can hardly wait
petej88,
If I am limp wristing, it is only with this gun. I am not having this problem with my HK USP9 (4,000 rounds) or my Glock 30 (2,000 rounds). I had a Walther P99. I fired almost 5,000 rounds with it without a jam.
Guns & Ammo did a short review of the M40 in the May 2000 issue. Using Norma Molycoated 155-grain JHP, it had two failures to eject and four failures to fire because the round would not chamber completely. G&A learned that Norma's brass is a bit thicker than the American Eagle and Black Hills brass, which fired without any malfunctions. G&A thought that this was part of the problem, along with the fact that the gun had not been cleaned and shot in throughly.
If I am limp wristing, it is only with this gun. I am not having this problem with my HK USP9 (4,000 rounds) or my Glock 30 (2,000 rounds). I had a Walther P99. I fired almost 5,000 rounds with it without a jam.
Guns & Ammo did a short review of the M40 in the May 2000 issue. Using Norma Molycoated 155-grain JHP, it had two failures to eject and four failures to fire because the round would not chamber completely. G&A learned that Norma's brass is a bit thicker than the American Eagle and Black Hills brass, which fired without any malfunctions. G&A thought that this was part of the problem, along with the fact that the gun had not been cleaned and shot in throughly.