Steel Target Danger?

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crazylegs

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I was thinking of getting one of those resettable targets made of 1/4" steel to get a break from the boring paper targets but I've heard there can be a back scatter danger in using them. I'll be using my 45 ACP with mild to full loads at a distance of 15 yds. Bullets will be cast (probably TCFP's). Any merit to the danger, and if so, what's a minimum distance to safely use these? Thanks.
Crazylegs
 
Backsplatter of bullet fragments from steel targets is always a concern.

ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION! This also applies to spectators.

I've seen bullet fragments draw blood at pistol matches and have been hit by a few myself both while shooting and as an RO. IPSC specifies that steel targets be shot from no closer than 7 meters. Most stages have them further away. I have a set of steel plates that I always set up at least 10 yards away. 15 yards should be fine, but there will be bullet splatter.

Did I mention wearing eye protection?
 
ScottyS1 is right on with distances from the steel. However, I'd think 1/4" steel is a little thin for 45acp.
 
I like using a Service Ace conversion for closer ranges.

I don't hesitate to waste my time plinking at rifle gongs but I avoid jacketed bullets at close range. Rumor has it that any irregularities in the surface of the steel can focus the rebound. That is a crater can act like a flashlight reflector and throw the rebound back at the shooter. Ask your vendor but 1/4 inch is IMHO a little light for full power .45 ACP loads and may deform fairly quickly. Try it and then watch for deformation. Targets are made with different alloys and some stand up better. When all is said and done I've only known one person to lose an eye to bounce back on an indoor range.
 
I've never had problems with jackets, but I've found that the heavy lead round nose bullets have a bad habit of coming back at you with a bad steel hit.
 
Been using 3/8ths" plate in 6"x8" rectangles with 3/8ths" round-stock welded to the back to act as a hanger. At 15--25 yds even the 200gr lead SWC at 700/800 fps has enough oomph to swing the target, and the lead is directed down toward the ground...
 
I have a couple pistol bays in my backyard, I made up targets out of 3/8" A36 plate such as bowling pins, IDPA silhouettes, tombstones etc. Occasionally you do get splatter back so glasses are a must. A few weeks ago I went out back with a Ruger MkII .22 and was shooting targets and didn't have my shooting glasses on, a frag came back and hit my eyebrow and drew blood! It was a wake up call, I could have lost an eye. I still don't know why I didn't have the glasses on. I normally shoot a .45, maybe I was thinking "its just a .22"...dont know.
If you are making your own targets, the desired AR plate is way too expensive right now, the cheap A36 plate works great even with fairly hot .44Mag loads, I've have not seen even a dent.
 
The kind of steel is important

to the longevity of the target.I don't know the nomenclature,but some steels are 'harder' than others.
Yes, you can get zinged,and so can bystanders.Use big ugly safety glasses to get as much protection as possible.Side shield types are grreat..
IIRC it's usually the bystanders that get whacked.At our cas shoots I"ve seldom seen the shooter get zinged,but I've been nailed as a bystander a couple of times.
 
I haven't been here for a while but I thought this one should be brought back to the top. This has been a pet peeve of mine for a while.

My wife caught a jacket fragment in the neck about 1/4" from her jugular from splatter off a steel plate that was made incorrectly. She had to have it surgically removed. This prompted me to look a little closer at how plates are made and what causes splatter.

A hazard that is often overlooked with steel plates is the configuration of the base and pedestal the plate sits on. If you have a flat steel "foot" with the plate welded in the center it can direct the splatter back at the shooter. The plate should be mounted flush to the front of the "foot" with the plate angled back slightly for balance. The plate/foot combo should sit flush with the front of the pedestal it sits on so the splatter coming off the bottom of the plate is directed to the ground. I have only been to a few clubs that used plates as described above but I have been to a lot of clubs that had shooters injured by splatter caused by incorrectly made plates.
 
even with mild loads its a danger.... I had a piece of lead graze my nose as I was bending down to unload my guns at a CAS shoot... ouch :eek:
 
i have a steel bowling pin target hanging on an old realty sign i use to plink at... when it was made we kinda hang it so it hung at a slight angle to keep the spatter an ricochette danger down..... you can't tell it at 15 yds but it's at about 10-15 degrees tilted back..... i shoot it with my .357 mag with no problems........it's made of pretty thick steel though....... and it's a swinger so that helps too...........
 
Not exactly the same thing, but I had blood drawn from lead spilling out from the compensator of a revolver after shooting lead bullets first and then followed by jacketed bullets...hit me in the face everytime, and I couldn't figure out what was going on till I called S&W and they explained I should have cleaned out the lead before firing jacketed bullets. :eek: ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION! :eek:
 
I once had a bb come back and shater my glases. When I was younger and first learning to shoot I was once shooting a home made swinger plate and I had an entire 45 auto lead rn come back and hit me in the thigh. There was no perminant damage, but yes, That did leave a mark. :(
 
Just one more observation:

I took an MP5 class last year and we shot 3 rd bursts & full auto at steel targets at 15-20 yds all day long and didn't have any problems with metal coming back. These were 9mm, of course. FWIW.
 
Bowling pins have a drilled hole for weight and balance adjustment and if the bullet hits it just right it will make a u-turn. I had a 255 gr SWC shot out of my 45 pin gun come back and hit me in the nuts after it hit one of these holes in the bowling pin. :eek:
 
Bowling pins have a drilled hole for weight and balance adjustment and if the bullet hits it just right it will make a u-turn. I had a 255 gr SWC shot out of my 45 pin gun come back and hit me in the nuts after it hit one of these holes in the bowling pin.
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Ouch, that makes me hurt just thinking about it:eek:
 
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