States That Do Not Support The Death Penalty AND Do Not Support CCW

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Mike H

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My views on the right to own guns and use them in self defence are completely at odds with my opposition to capital punishment, most people are either all for both or absolutely against both. Whilst I don't want to bore you all with my reasoning for this stance, I have noticed a direct correlation between those states that REALLY relish frying BG's and have absolute support for CCW. Similarly, there are very few states that don't have the death penalty but DO allow CCW, North Dakota sticks in my mind as an exception, but I don't think anyone lives there anyway.

I just found it interesting in a "lefty liberal" versus the "I'd pay good money to throw the switch myself" kind of way, when I find a state that won't kill me for unjustly waxing a mugger or a paedophile, I may move there. Any thoughts ?, cummon you radicals let's hear it.

Mike H
 
I guess I am an oddball. I am very Pro-RKBA, Pro Death Penalty and Anti Abortion. Call me crazy. But I believe that an innocent should never be harmed and that the guilty should be punished. ANd prison is NOT punishment.
 
Kevin,

I couldn't agree more about the guilty being punished, like OJ you mean ? or the seven death row inmates in Illinois who were recently released because their convictions were basically BS, or the civil rights campaigners in the 60's who were openly murdered in Mississippi by a county sheriff and his deputy but not prosecuted by the state, or the Rodney King assault, or on the other hand the Amadeu Diallo shooting prosecutions that should never have been filed in the first place, or Clinton's sexual assault charges that never were, or any one of a million other travesties of justice that happen in the US every other day.

It's amazing that anyone can trust such a system to preside over their life and death. Personally, I wouldn't trust the state or Federal justice system to ajudicate over one of my parking tickets.

But the point of the thread was to address whether there is any link between the issue of state attitudes towards self defence with a firearm and state imposition of the death penalty.

Mike H
 
I am very much for the death penalty. I do think that more citizen participation should be encouraged. Before I am nailed as bloodthirsty or infatuated with death, hear me out.

I agree with anyone who wishes to live in a state that upholds the ultimate penalty. I just think, like jury duty, it ought to be a part of democracy. Why should we be free to sentence someone to death and "contract" it out to the state exterminators. That doesn't strike me as responsibility.

Let's require voters to "actively" participate in the end game via some lottery system. Then we shall know.
 
Kick out a couple of ideas.
1-I am for the death penalty but it does scare me.
2-Any person put to death and later found not to have commited the crime the folowing should be done.A complete investigation and any lawyer or anyone else that withheld any evidence or fabricated evidence shall be put to death.
3-All person should have equal representation.That one is hard to do I know but why should someone get off because on money.
4-None of this will work but it sounds good.But that is idealistic isn't it.

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beemerb
We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world;
and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men
every day who don't know anything and can't read.
-Mark Twain
 
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