Startled myself today

redlightrich

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Hello all, I went to the range today with my 1911 and my 22lr kit, and my CZ 9mm.

I put 100 rounds thru the CZ and then switched to my 1911 with the 22 Kimber kit on it. I ran that with 22lr for near 200 rounds. Then I removed my Kimber kit, and put my 1911 back to it's normal self, as a 45.

Now, I have never owned a 1911 or a 45 before this, and I have only had this gun for 2 weeks. I have other pistols and have experience, just not with 1911s. While working on my accuracy, I had 2 rounds go off almost as if it were full auto for a second. I became a bit startled, but continued to empty the mag without any incident. I thought, well a full auto 1911 would be neat if I were to expect it. Then I stopped and thought what caused it. I got a little excited thinking about the glock meltdown video. Then while reloading I began to seriously ponder.

After thinking it thru, I figured that being I was just shooting 22lr, I was getting lazy, and didn't have the proper grip when shooting, which may have caused a "slide fire" type reaction where the gun moved in my hand and activated itself. The second shot of that sequence was on paper, but not thru my skill, just because it was pointed in that general direction for the prior shot.

I finished the rest of my time and ammo without any more such incident. I doubt my gun malfunctioned. More likely that I did.

I have never experienced this before, although my only other calibers ( in pistol) are 22lr and 9mm.

Has anyone ever had this occur? Is my thought of a loose grip likely?

Thank you

Rich
 
Since you have never owned a 1911 or a 45 type caliber pistol it could be that you held the trigger in such a manner that it reset and the slide going into battery caused the second shot to go off as if it was an automatic.

The recoil caused significant flip at the muzzle and if you are not used to it , relaxing your finger just a little could cause the multiple fires unexpectantly.
 
The first time I shot my Walther PPQ I had 2 accidental double taps out of 100rds. This occurred because I tried to ride the reset and was not used to the recoil or trigger.

I believe you are experiencing an accidental double tap due to just not being used to the trigger. However it is possible your sear is worn out if your gun is used and fairly old or a lower quality piece of something.
 
Thank you for the replies. Yes, one of the things that went thru my mind was the "bump fire" stock or "slide fire " stock for the AR15. That is exactly the principal it works on.

I only have 300 rounds of 45 on the lower and another 500 of 22lr ( I have a conversion kit) thru this brand new gun. I would be surprised if the sear is worn out.

It is amazing the amount of thoughts you can have in a few seconds. For an instant, I wished I could do that on demand!!! But I realized that I could probably not reproduce this if I wanted to.

I think this was a good lesson to myself. Although the 22 kit allows you more trigger time, it gives me a wrong impression about the firearm's character. As a 45, having a loose, or casual grip will not suffice. As a 22, you can shoot it and hold it with 2 fingers.
When I go to the range with 1 gun only, it is much easier to concentrate on that specific firearm's character.

When, like yesterday, I bring 3 or 4, there is a lot of shifting gears. It is good practice to quickly adapt, but it requires much more awareness and concentration.

Lesson learned: tight grip always, and keep trigger held back until slide is back into battery.

Thanks for the input, on the serious side, I simply want safety for myself and anyone near me.

Rich
 
This happens a lot to lighter triggers or triggers that a significantly lighter than what the shooters are used to. Glock, XDs, and M&Ps that have been worked on heavily do this all the time at the range.
 
When I first got my 1911, I was pretty new to handguns in general, and I had a similar thing happen. I didn't have the proper grip, and the gun fired an extra round as a result. Scared the tar out of me. Just make sure your properly gripping the gun, and focus on trigger control. It shouldn't happen again.
 
Thank you for the replies. Yes, one of the things that went thru my mind was the "bump fire" stock or "slide fire " stock for the AR15. That is exactly the principal it works on.

I only have 300 rounds of 45 on the lower and another 500 of 22lr ( I have a conversion kit) thru this brand new gun. I would be surprised if the sear is worn out...




Rich

You never answered the question if it is new or not.
He did....
 
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He did

Yes, he did and I missed it. My apologies.

A person would like to think a new gun wouldn't double like that.
 
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