steelbuster
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I need disassemble instructions for a Standard Arms Model G.( c.1910)
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Standard Arms Model G info wanted
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Hi, Steelbuster,
Boy, are you into oldies. You might not want to tackle the disassembly job after reading this, but here goes. A vise with padded jaws will help but you can get by without it.
To disassemble the rifle into two main parts, grip the buttstock and insert the point of a bullet (.30-'06 ball works fine) into the hole just behind the trigger guard and push upward, while pulling forward on the barrel. The trigger group and stock will come away from the receiver. (If this reminds anyone of the SKS takedown, Simonov was a copycat.)
Behind the front sight there is a little dovetailed cover plate. Tap it out left to right, and remove the screw underneath it. Now with a block of wood, tap the gas block (the part with the front sight on it) forward until it comes off, along with the gas cylinder. (If this reminds anyone of the original M1 rifle gas trap system, Garand was a copycat.) The foreend and foreend tube can now be removed.
The gas piston is now exposed. Unscrew the piston (it has a screwdriver slot in the head). Make sure the spring is kept captive; it can whip when released and injure an eye. I have seen one that had a sideways hole in the piston rod to hold the spring, but I am not sure if that was factory or an owner "fix". If the hole is there, use it and a paperclip or a piece of steel wire to hold the spring forward and captive.
With the piston unscrewed, the carrier and bolt can be removed. Reassemble in reverse order. If there is no hole in the rod, I recommend drilling one; it makes assembly much easier.
If you have not fired the gun, try it. Most don't work worth a darn as autoloaders and they are about useless as a pump gun because the shooter has to fight the spring when using the gun in the manual mode. All in all, not an ideal design, but we have to remember that the Standard was the pioneer in gas operation and, for that matter, in pump operated high power rifles as well.
Jim
Boy, are you into oldies. You might not want to tackle the disassembly job after reading this, but here goes. A vise with padded jaws will help but you can get by without it.
To disassemble the rifle into two main parts, grip the buttstock and insert the point of a bullet (.30-'06 ball works fine) into the hole just behind the trigger guard and push upward, while pulling forward on the barrel. The trigger group and stock will come away from the receiver. (If this reminds anyone of the SKS takedown, Simonov was a copycat.)
Behind the front sight there is a little dovetailed cover plate. Tap it out left to right, and remove the screw underneath it. Now with a block of wood, tap the gas block (the part with the front sight on it) forward until it comes off, along with the gas cylinder. (If this reminds anyone of the original M1 rifle gas trap system, Garand was a copycat.) The foreend and foreend tube can now be removed.
The gas piston is now exposed. Unscrew the piston (it has a screwdriver slot in the head). Make sure the spring is kept captive; it can whip when released and injure an eye. I have seen one that had a sideways hole in the piston rod to hold the spring, but I am not sure if that was factory or an owner "fix". If the hole is there, use it and a paperclip or a piece of steel wire to hold the spring forward and captive.
With the piston unscrewed, the carrier and bolt can be removed. Reassemble in reverse order. If there is no hole in the rod, I recommend drilling one; it makes assembly much easier.
If you have not fired the gun, try it. Most don't work worth a darn as autoloaders and they are about useless as a pump gun because the shooter has to fight the spring when using the gun in the manual mode. All in all, not an ideal design, but we have to remember that the Standard was the pioneer in gas operation and, for that matter, in pump operated high power rifles as well.
Jim
steelbuster
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Hi Jim,
I can't tell you how happy you have made me. I just became the proud owner of my grandpa's gun and have been searching in vain for any info. He was the first Ranger in the Many Glacier District of Glacier National Park(1910) and I have an old picture of him with this rifle. He always had to have the newest things and I'm sure thats why he bought this Standard Arms. While we would never think this was enough gun nowdays, he fed his family of 17 with it and hunted everything from Grizzly to Grouse.
Anyway, I was stuck after breaking the rifle down. It was driving me crazy trying to figure out how to get the bolt out so thanks a million. The Gun is in really great shape and I have ordered .30Rem brass and Dies so I will be trying it out soon.
Do you know of any general problems with the Model G? I found a parts source and I need to order a front sight. This gun will be staying in my family and I'm wondering if I should by a few spare parts. Maybe all the Springs or??? what do you think?
Also the gas valve is frosen in the ON position. Any suggestions on freeing it up?
Thanks again for the help. It was priceless.
Pete
I can't tell you how happy you have made me. I just became the proud owner of my grandpa's gun and have been searching in vain for any info. He was the first Ranger in the Many Glacier District of Glacier National Park(1910) and I have an old picture of him with this rifle. He always had to have the newest things and I'm sure thats why he bought this Standard Arms. While we would never think this was enough gun nowdays, he fed his family of 17 with it and hunted everything from Grizzly to Grouse.
Anyway, I was stuck after breaking the rifle down. It was driving me crazy trying to figure out how to get the bolt out so thanks a million. The Gun is in really great shape and I have ordered .30Rem brass and Dies so I will be trying it out soon.
Do you know of any general problems with the Model G? I found a parts source and I need to order a front sight. This gun will be staying in my family and I'm wondering if I should by a few spare parts. Maybe all the Springs or??? what do you think?
Also the gas valve is frosen in the ON position. Any suggestions on freeing it up?
Thanks again for the help. It was priceless.
Pete
A while back Gun Parts Corp. had some Standard parts, but I don't know if they still do. As for the frozen gas valve, I can only suggest the usual "soak it in solvent" approach.
I honestly don't know about shooting it, but they are great collector display items with the bronze forearm and buttplate. Some are in good shape I suspect because they were put away when the owner bought a better gun (almost anything).
I advise you not to be too happy about getting it apart until you get it back together again. There are no real traps to "reassemble in reverse order" but it isn't like throwing a military rifle together.
BTW, I should not have compared the gas cylinder to the gas-trap M1. The cylinder unit looks a bit like that, but the Standard is a gas port rifle.
Good luck.
Jim
I honestly don't know about shooting it, but they are great collector display items with the bronze forearm and buttplate. Some are in good shape I suspect because they were put away when the owner bought a better gun (almost anything).
I advise you not to be too happy about getting it apart until you get it back together again. There are no real traps to "reassemble in reverse order" but it isn't like throwing a military rifle together.
BTW, I should not have compared the gas cylinder to the gas-trap M1. The cylinder unit looks a bit like that, but the Standard is a gas port rifle.
Good luck.
Jim
steelbuster
New member
Hi Jim, I don't think I am going to take it apart at this time, no real need to. I just like to take apart any gun I get to inspect it ( well OK, actually just for the fun of doing it). This one had me stumped and I am very happy to know how to do it later if I have to.
Is there anything on the barrel to register the sight after reassembly or do you just rotated the gas block during the sighting in process?
Gun Parts lists most parts for the gun so I'll have to see what they have in stock. Thanks
Is there anything on the barrel to register the sight after reassembly or do you just rotated the gas block during the sighting in process?
Gun Parts lists most parts for the gun so I'll have to see what they have in stock. Thanks