I just puta used one on layaway today. It looked and my dealer said it was a knock off of the kel-tec p11. He said it had a life time warranty on it. I liked the way it looked,except for the hook on the trigger gaurd. That will have to come off. Does any one know anything about them? does anyone own one? how are they?The dealer wanted 179.00 for it . Did I get taken? I will get it out tommorow and take it to the range and see how it does.who makes them and where are they located? sj