Stance/form

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When I shoot, I stand feet shoulder width apart, shoulders relaxed, arms straight out, thumbs towards the target, both eyes open blurring the rear sight and the target with the front sight crystal. But my cousin shoots standing one foot in front of the other, one arm extended more and closing one eye. I don't want to sound like an elitist and say there's only one right way to shoot, I think if you're putting rounds on target you're doing it right.

How do you shoot? :D
 
I stand the way you do but, sadly, for me, the front sight is never crystal clear. Chalk it up to ageing eyes, but I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. If I take my glasses off (I'll still wear protective goggles, of course), the front sight becomes clear but the target disappears almost entirely. With glasses on, I can visualize the target but the front sight becomes a blur. I know, I'm supposed to look at the front sight and not the target but, I still have to point the gun at SOMETHING.:( Then, I have another problem in that I'm opposite eye dominant (I'm right handed but my left eye is dominant). With all of that, I'm still a pretty accurate shot out to about 20 yards using the identical grip and stance that you use.
 
If someone is shooting at a high level, then whatever they're doing is "right". If someone is having trouble shooting well, and an unorthodox stance or grip is contributing to it, then someone who's more skilled is likely to try to convert that person to the style with which they've had success. I was watching a video of a USPSA national championship of about fifteen years ago, and one guy was shooting a classic Weaver stance. You could argue that if the guy is good enough to compete for a national title, his shooting style is OK. But, he didn't win, so there must be something better?
 
Sounds like you prefer the isosceles stance, whereas your cousin like the Weaver. The "best" stance/grip is likely the one you shoot best with and most accommodates your style of shooting. The 1-eye vs 2-eyes thing is another thread...

As for me, I like informal target shooting with a double action revolver. When shooting 2-handed, I found that the isosceles stance works better for me, for a couple of reasons:

1. The grip/stance feels more neutral. I feel too much push/pull of the gun with Weaver. Push/pull might control recoil in rapid fire - I dunno - but it's hard to get the 2 opposing forces consistent enough for target work.

2. For combat action type shooting, I seem to be able to quickly move to either side easier when using isosceles.

3. When shooting a DA revolver in DA, I place the 1st joint of my trigger finger over the trigger. To get this, the gun is gripped such that the barrel of the gun isn't in line with my arm, but at an approximately 30degree angle, which is about what it would be anyway in an isosceles stance.
 
My stance is similar to the OP. Only recently (after practicing at home) have I been able to shoot effectively with both eyes open. When I first started shooting I honestly never thought I'd be able to shoot without closing one eye. Now that I'm starting to ge the hang of it, my groups are getting smaller:)
 
I shoot the Weaver stance. If you're hitting what you aim at consistently, then you're doing it right for you.
 
I am right handed and I use a modified Isosceles stance, with the right foot slightly to the rear (about 1-1.5 feet), both arms fully extended with both hands on the grips (not the bottom of the mag-well) and dominant eye-open. I am trying to learn to shoot with both eyes open, but it is so hard to forget years and years of training. This is basically how I was taught to shoot a Beretta 92 in the Marines, where they gave us a choice of the weaver, isosceles or combination stances. Of course, I still focus on the front sight while the rear sight and target are visible but blurry.
 
I used to shoot using the Weaver and modified Weaver, but I have since transitioned to the Isosceles. I find the Isosceles to be much more comfortable, easier to quickly find my natural POA, and has better recoil controlling characteristics.
 
Isosceles when shooting right-handed, Weaver when shooting left-handed, Bullseye-style when shooting...Bullseye.
 
I stand very similar to the original poster. Both hands on gun, thumbs pointing forward and one eye closed. I'd like to work on being able to accurately shoot with both eyes open. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
 
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Brian Zins. Nine time National Champion at Camp Perry:
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Haha I love it!

Ya, you guys are all right. On all fronts if you're hitting it you're doing it right. And ECHOONE sent me a message informing me on the names of stances. I knew them, I just didn't know how to I.D. them. Thanks again man!

Yes I am definitely an Isosceles shooter. I can shoot very well foot over foot moving, and I can get my rounds in a deadly center mass group on a silhouette target at 30 yards.

He also told me about the Center Axis Recoil stance. I found this so amusing! I love to learn new things with my hobbies and this was awsome. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about ( I know most of you probly do ) I'm attaching a video. I'm gonna get out as soon as I can and try this. I tried it dry firing a second ago and it's very solid. I can't see myself changing all I do to this but it's handy for on the move shots.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0XfqHTGHSk

Here's another.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SASDcZFCXzQ
 
maybe so...

$5 says that GySgt Zins likely wouldnt be using his bullseye stance when shooting at BG's in combat.
Maybe so....but then would he shoot better than he already does if he affected another stance? It'd be real hard to shoot better. Of course, those bgs would maybe be shooting back, unlike the targets.
Pete
 
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