Stamp Act of 2000 for Gun Owners

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RUBBER STAMP BRIGADE

Those of you who live in big cities may remember seeing dollar bills that were stamped GAY DOLLAR. This was to remind everyone of the buying power of the gay community. This made a lot of people wise up that at least they better be nice to gays if they didn't want so suffer economic consequences. These stamps (among other actions) also raised the visibility of gays to a level not known before. In any case, you see the result. In Illinois you have a Republican governor trying to pass a gay rights bill. Members of his closest staff are openly gay. Gun owners? Not a one in sight...at least not one who'll admit to it. Gun Rights? Sure, Governor Ryan will be happy to take them away! HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED!

So, we are starting our own version of the GAY DOLLAR -

We ordered our first batch of stamps and will be ready to ship them the Tuesday following Memorial Day. Here is what the stamp will look like:

GUN OWNER$

These are inkless stamps so you will have to get a red ink pad. These stamps are perfect for marking legal and tender things. The GAY DOLLAR was a huge success, I hope GUN OWNER$ will be too! can we duplicate that success? Gonna take a lot of stamps! You can get a stamp two ways:

1. Send a $15 donation (not tax deductible thank you very much!) to Concealed Carry, Inc., PO BOX, 4597 Oak Brook, IL 60522-4597 and I'll send a stamp. If you send less, I'll probably send a stamp anyway. Concealed Carry, Inc. is paying $5.50 per stamp (I know, someone out there can get them for less!). If you want more than one stamp, call me and we can work out a much lower rate. We are going to contact the bank about taking Visa/MasterCharge today. For now, we have to do this the snail mail way.

2. Go to your local Office Supply shop and tell them to make a stamp that says GUN OWNER$ in 18 Point Helvetica Bold Font. If you get a self-inking stamp request red ink.

Please note: We mentioned that gays used to stamp money. While we don't recall any of them being arrested for doing so, we re not telling anyone how to use this stamp nor suggesting it be used to stamp anything "Legal and Tender."

If you would...pass this on to other lists that may be interested in participating in our little act of rebellion.
 
Great idea.

That's not much time to get good circulation. Perhaps a target of the 4th of July would be better?

CMOS

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NRA? Good. Now joing the GOA!
 
Well, it is against Federal law to deface U.S. Currency. Be careful in advising others to do so. That is conspiracy. In the current political environment, do you want to give the anti-gun administration an excuse to set its Justice Department against you.

The Gays weren't prosecuted because the administration was friendly to their cause. BE CAREFUL.

Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service.

This charge may also be aggregated for each act of defacement.
 
While it is illegal to deface currency "with intent to render [it] unfit to be reissued", it's not illegal to place a simple stamp on currency. The "Where's George" web site, at http://www.wheresgeorge.com/ has been operating for a good long time and has had no problems with encouraging people to place the web site's address on all currency. Odds are the Secret Service would have shut them down by now if simply placing a stamped message on a bill were illegal. As long as the currency isn't altered to the point where the type/amount of the bill is illegible, or so changed that it won't make it through the banking system anymore, then you should be fine.
 
The Deparment of Justice and the U.S. Attorney's Office in your area has exclusive jurisdiction to prosecute violations of the law. Prosecutorial discretion allows them to pick and choose what laws to prosecute and what offenders to bring to trial. Don't labor under the illusion that all men are equal under the eyes of the law.

If you are a member of a "favored group" then prosecution is unlikely. Just because they have chosen not to prosecute violations in the past doesn't provide an immunity for future prosecutions. Prosecutions are political.

Remember, the current administration will use whatever means are necessary to achieve their political ends. Know the risks. Do what you want, it's your life.
 
This is right up my alley.

How are they going to find out? They'd have to check every Office Depot, etc. If you pay cash for the stamp, who's to know? If you must give a name/address, perhaps you may be overcome with the enormity of it all and forget your real name and address. Stranger things have happened.

This is my current tactic: I have a red ink stamp that prints the international symbol for "NO" (slashed circle) -- about the size of a nickel. In the lower right hand side of any envelope I send out, I write in three lines "More Gun Control", then stamp the symbol over it.

A lot of people are bound to see it and the stamp isn't that expensive. As the election gets closer, you may want to substitute
"Gore" for "more gun control".

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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
 
And what about the mail guys? And what about the junk mail that all have return envlopes in them. Postage paid, stamp that and mail it off, the postal service needs the money anyway....
 
Well, you could always use it on your checks instead of US Currency.
Besides, the checks I write usually are for larger transactions than any cash business I do.

Just a thought.
 
I don't think Gay Dollars was the huge success the homosexual community would have you believe it was. They love to flaunt their disposable income. Who cares? The reason they have disposable income is because they do not pro-create, a selfish choice in itself. I know of no one, shop keeper or otherwise, who was impressed by their tactic. You either accept them or you don't, but their economic status don't mean dick. (I probably should not use the word "dick" in a post about homosexuals.)

As far as the Gun Owner stamp, I do not need anybody I do not know gleaning this information about me, particularly when I am including my name and address on a store reciept. If it comes up in conversation, and I so choose to devulge my affiliation, I will do so at my discretion.



[This message has been edited by Ol' Timer (edited May 20, 2000).]
 
I'm a LOT more worried about further restrictions on my freedoms and a government that seems to want to invade every facet of my life than I am about "defacing" currency! As for the "gay money" campaign being ineffective, I live in the middle of nowhere, and lots of those marked bills made it to South Dakota. If you don't want to be identified when using these bills, don't pay in cash! We need to fight back any and every way we can, and this looks like another good (and EASY) measure that might wake some people up! My God, how far are you NOT willing to go?! SCR1 you'll probably hear from me soon. Take Care- Dakotan
 
Another tack maybe?

Years ago US Navy sailors were considered less than second class citizens in the Norfolk VA area. Many incidents were put upon us. Finally, even the boss admiral at the time decided enough was enough and determined to show the "community at large" just how much $$$$ the fleet and shore-based sailorhood meant to them (the city and "other" folks). He had paymasters of every ship and station order and deliver to the troops their pay in TWO DOLLAR bills flooding the stores and other businesses, the city tax world, and finally as deposits were made, the banks.

The message was that the Navy supported a major share of the area economy. It took a while but we do have a better "relationship" today.

FWTV: (For Whatever The Value).

AB
 
Some things work, some don't.

Back in the '60s I was in the North-South Skirmish Association and we held our matches on military ranges. John Kennedy boo-hooed we were "opening old wounds" and closed the bases to us. We then started holding our matches at different cities. At that time we could get all the silver dollars we wanted, so we spent those to let the communities know how much we brought to them. Worked quite well.

When the silver dollars disappeared, we tried the $2 bills bur that backfired to a degree as many people spent them as ones before they realized it. The communities said, "Lay off the $2 bills, we get the point."

Last year in Pensacola, the gays were spending money stamped "Gay" in pink. My wife was a bank teller then and was told that any money so stamped was to be immediately withdrawn and sent to the Feds to be destroyed, so it appeared to be a one-time deal and not too effective.

Reconsidering all this, I think I'll stick to stamping my mail as outlined above. It sounded good at first blush, and if you want to make a statement, go ahead, but I don't think this will get far.

On the other hand, putting 5-10 rounds into a target and sending it to the politicians on Father's Day as an example of father-son/daughter bonding looks to be a good idea. It will infuriate the antis as they see the future will STILL have people interested in guns.

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I think this is a great idea, some tax protestors did the same thing several years ago. Marking the bills as FIAT (money backed by nothing). I used red ink, it shows up real well.

Waterdog
 
Ol' Timer said "dick" ha ha, ha, ha ha

Sounds like a good idea to me if it is something that would get noticed. It seems that a lot of the $bills that I get have been scribbled on or defaced in some way. I don't recall ever hearing of anyone being arrested for it, heck there are even machines made that for a buck or two will take your penny, flatten it out, and stamp something in it (these are usually located in tourist trap areas, often aroundold railroad attractions) If defacing legal currencey for profit isn't prosecuted, I don't know why they would even attempt to go after some unknown person with a little rubber stamp although I am sure that they would label all gun owners as terrorists who are trying to disrupt the whole economic system of the U.S.
I don't know if blue would stand out enough. A couple of months ago, I stopped to get a soda and a pack of smokes and one of the $1 bills that I got back looked just a little different, it took a minute, then I realized it had blue ink on the treasury seal and the words Silver Certificate across the top. Point is, nobody really pays much attention to the bills they carry around or I wold never have gotten that one. I don't know, maybe none of the younger people even have a clue what a Siver Certificate is, and they just thought it was a "new" design, been an awful long time since they were in circulation.

bergie

I think that sending a target full of bullet holes would probably be taken as a threat, or at least portrayed that way by the anti-gun politicians and would definitely be investigated, leading to major headaches to say the least.

[This message has been edited by bergie (edited May 21, 2000).]
 
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