Stag Arms Model 4 .22 conversion?

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Kimio

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I'll be getting a Stag Arms Model 4 AR15 some time this week (It's on order) and while .223 ammunition isn't terribly expensive, for someone who does not reload (yet) the costs can really start to add up.

From what I've researched, the only things I'll have to change in my AR is the Bolt group and the magazine, since the .22 round shares similar dimensions with the .223

My question is if there is anything else I should be concerned with, and if I'll need a specific kind of .22 bolt for my AR. Has anyone actually tried this before with a Stag Model 4? How safe is this conversion?

The rifle in question is a full length 20" barrel M16 style AR15, I will not be expecting a lot of accuracy out of the rifle when it's converted to a .22, all I want is an affordable means to still practice my rifle techniques, recoil control is one thing, but I'm still a bit new to shooting, so to help make sure I don't develop bad habits while using a more powerful round the .22 seems to be the most logical solution without having to go out and buy an entirely new rifle or pistol.

Any information on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
 
i own a stag ar but have never shot any conversion kits in my gun however i have been there next to my friends when they have had 22's blow up in their immaculately clean guns or 2 separate occasions. i am not and never have been a fan of shooting any type of conversion kits in a gun. i recommend for probably no more than 100 bucks more to just buy a 22 ar ... i think sig and several other company's such as ruger make 22 ar's for around 400 bucks and set up the gun to look like your stag... otherwise u could really go the cheap way i did and put a body kit on a ruger 10/22 like the archangel :)
 
Primary reason I'm looking at a conversion is because I want to stick with the AR platform, and as I had mentioned, if it's possible to do so without buying a new rifle or what have you, I'd rather do so.

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I'd really rather not spend $500 to $600 bucks on a complete upper, since that is almost as much as the rifle itself, if I were to do that, I may as well buy a new rifle all together. But I appreciate the suggestion.

A bit odd that there were round failures in a clean gun. I've read elsewhere that if the gun isn't cleaned before switching back to .223 you could have unsafe pressure build ups in the chamber, not to mention lead build up or increased fouling within the gas tube from using .22

I'll do some more research on this and see what comes up. Any other comments on this subject would be greatly appreciated, I'm open to anyones input, be it in favor or against conversion kits.
 
i have a 22lr kit for my ar15. i think its one of the best buys ive ever done gun related. swap bolts and start firing with the mag that comes included. its plug and play device. im only shooting at a short distance, 30 feet or so. can do tight groups with super colibri ammo. thats not particularly accurate ammo either, but like i said its only 30 feet.

i do get a fair bit of failures to eject now as i didnt clean the inside of the bolt's barrel. its a 223 cartridge looking thing. i see a dark ring inside of it. the ammo is lead and that builds up. it was performing better in the beginning. usually its the opposite with break in periods. im thinking copper plated is the way to go for accuracy and jamming prevention. ive shot about 300 22lr out of the conversion so far. the gun's barrel is 18 or 20 inches and it has a 1/8 twist.
 
The issue with the conversion kits I have is one.... rimfire ammo is DIRTY.

Two... you are shooting undersized projectiles down your barrel... not really a great thing, for both accuracy or your barrel life.

I would either get a dedicated .22 upper....or buy a whole other gun.

The S&W MP-22 rifle is affordable and works great. The one my co-worker owns has countless bulk pack federals through it and has never missed a beat.
 
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