St.Louis says no to free gunlocks

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Homesafe,a Seattle based gun safety organization was snubbed by the city yesterday when they offered to provide 5000 free triggerlocks valued at $50,000 to the city.A spokesman for the mayors office cited the organizations ties to the gun industry and the NRA along with the possibility that accepting the locks would complicate the city`s suit against the gun industry as the reason behind their refusal to accept the locks.
Gee,and all this time I thought they were doing it for the children.
 
Couldn't we then say that the Mayor's office accepts "a certain amount of killing" in order to maintain their lawsuit?

Think I'll write them and ask for clarification. (evil :) )

I just checked - here's the mayor's email address - harmon@stlouis.missouri.org

2nd update - Here's what I just sent the mayor and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, in my best liberal tone:

I saw this comment on one of the Internet bulletin boards:
"(Original post, less the children comment)

This sounds like outrageous slander against your office and the city, as I cannot believe you would willingly endanger childrens' lives because of a possible loss of lawsuit money.

Something like this would just prove the validity of the eyebrow-raising statement by the NRA about "allowing a certain amount of killing" just to forward an agenda, or in this case, literally, for "blood money".

Please tell me there is no validity to this statement. A simple "It is not true" will suffice. No obfuscation, please, this is too important a matter."

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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.

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Rush Limbaugh just finished talking about this (should I say "railing" about it :))...

I wouldn't want to be that Mayor now

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
That's a great letter.

The hypocrisy reaches new heights. How many gun thefts, misuses and accidents will occur, while they wait for their hoped-for Gravy Train...the anti-gunmaker lawsuits...to get to the station?

This is politics and money-grubbing that reeks like nothing I've ever smelled. I think a class-action lawsuit against this turd, naming as plaintiffs every person whose life was shattered by a gun mishap, after they couldn't get a free trigger lock, is fair turnabout. There must be a trial lawyer out there who is willing to work for the right, correct, good side....us.
 
Covert Mission - Dang! I didn't think of the lawsuit angle. That would be a perfect "hoisted on their own petard" deal to pull. The Damoclesian Sword of a wrongful death lawsuit due to the mayor's refusal would really make the city fathers sweat.

It would be neat for Homesafe to make this "fish or cut bait" offer to New Orleans and other lawsuit cities and watch 'em squirm. If anybody does eventually take them up on the offer, we could send 'em $5 for another batch "on behalf of concerned gun owners".

Irony, thy taste is sweet!




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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
 
FYI all
http://www.moga.state.mo.us/statutes/c000-099/0670138.htm
"Missouri Revised Statutes
Chapter 67
Political Subdivisions, Miscellaneous Powers
Section 67.138

August 28, 1999


Liability of political subdivisions for certain frivolous actions.
67.138. Any county, city, town, village or other political subdivision found to have filed a frivolous action against any firearms or ammunition manufacturer, trade association or dealer, shall be liable for all costs, attorneys' fees and other sanctions as the court finds necessary to prevent such future actions by the plaintiff or entities similarly situated.

(L. 1999 S.B. 1, et al. § 8) "


The city of St. Louis could be digging their own grave.....some of the state republicans (and a good number of demo's) are lying in wait the the city..... the city of KC has not joined the lawsuit just because of this law.....
 
In Wisconsin our frivolous lawsuit act allows the defendent to collect three times the damages sought by the plaintiff, if the suit is deemed frivolous. Our Milwaukee mayor had talked about suing for $350 million. I wonder how much our taxes would go up if the city had to fork over a billion dollars for his frivolity?

Dick
 
thats why KC is being super cautious about joining in on the law suit.... they also have been told by the pro people here that they WILL SUE at the drop of a hat if they join
 
Sword of Damocles (sord uv DAM-uh-kleez), noun

meaning: Constant threat; imminent peril.

[After Damocles, fourth century B.C. Greek courtier to Dionysius the Elder, tyrant of Syracuse, who according to legend was forced to sit at a banquet table under a sword suspended by a single hair to demonstrate the precariousness of a king's fortunes.]

Oh how I can visualize a large group of elected officials sitting so... ;)

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What do you expect from St Louis these are the dorks that killed right to carry for the Rest of the state of Missouri. Does this clear things up any. They liberal elitists
 
A spokesman for Homesafe said that they had made the offer to other cities that are sueing the gun industry and that the gift was accepted.This story broke on the radio late wednesday.Since the Post is a day behind the radio on stories I expect to see something in the paper on friday.It will be interesting to see the spin they put on this.The url for the St.Louis Post-Dispatch is http://www.postnet.com
 
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I just heard on the radio that Aldermanic Committee Chairman Francis Slay Jr.who just happens to be challenging Clarence Harmon for the position of mayor along with the Sheriff of St.Louis have done an end run around the Mayors office and will accept the triggerlocks from Project Homesafe.I`m not sure of the parlimentary maneuvering that took place but Slay was heard criticizing the mayor on KMOX.

Looks like we`ve got dueling liberals!!hehe!
 
Actually, IMHO, the mayor of St. Louis is being quite honest. The truth is that almost none of the current hysteria we're seeing is truly 'for the children' or for safety. If it was, the anti's would consider the loss of innocent life by not allowing people to defend themselves.

This is about citizen control, and about winning elections by playing on people's emotions. Why help your 'enemy' by accepting gun locks?

A bit foolish perhaps, on the mayor's part. But, quite consistent with the truth.

Here's the link:
http://www.postnet.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/5430B98DDB9EACA1862568AC0007DC32

Here's the related story, noted above:

Breaking story
City sheriff says he'll accept free safety locks Harmon rejected
By Mark Schlinkmann
Regional Political Correspondent

St. Louis Sheriff Jim Murphy will accept the 5,000 free safety locks from the gun manufacturing industry that Mayor Clarence Harmon turned down.

"If you can just save one child's life by having a gun lock in their home, it's well worth it," Murphy said Thursday at a news conference with Aldermanic President Francis Slay.

Murphy, whose office issues new gun ownership permits in the city, said he plans to hand out the locks to future applicants once the devices are supplied by the gun group later this spring. He pointed out that a city ordinance requires applicants for permits to show proof they've bought a lock themselves.

Harmon said Wednesday that he had rejected an offer in January from the gun group, the National Shooting Sports Foundation. The mayor said he believed doing so could hurt the city's lawsuit against the industry.

On Thursday, the mayor said he had no objections to the sheriff's office distributing the locks because Murphy is an independent elected official and not a plaintiff in the city's case. In fact, he said "it's a great idea" for someone else to distribute the free locks.

"When you're in litigation with an industry, you don't just jump out and accept the first offer they make to you," Harmon said, referring to his administration.

Slay said he supports Harmon's lawsuit against the industry but that the mayor had made a mistake in turning down the January offer. Slay called it "a no-brainer ... something we shouldn't be passing up."

Harmon, meanwhile, accused Slay of trying "to politicize this in an effort to run for office." Slay is running against Harmon in the Democratic mayoral primary next March.



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