spotting scope ?

rebs

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Can you guys recommend a spotting scope that will enable me to see 223 holes at 300 to 400 yds ? I have a budget of about $250.00 to $300.00
 
My KOWA spotting scope has a 82mm front lens with a variable
power eye piece ( 20 to 60 magnification ) and I can see a
223 hole at 200 yards

KOWA has an 88mm that should see better
and there are other brands ( they cost a lot more )

I have shot HI Power rifle competition and most of the competitors
are using the 82 mm KOWA

But none of them can see a 223 hole at 300. or farther
even with the 88mm or the 90mm lenses

You are about to spend ( for the scope, eye piece and a good stand )
about $ 2300.00 to $ 2700.00 and even more for a German scope
with the 90 mm lens
 
I'd also say that, at those distances (or at any distance for that matter), a hole in a Shoot-N-See type target would be much easier to pick up than a hole in plain paper.
 
The closest decent spotting scope anywhere near that price is the Nikon Prostaff, the 60x versions is over $500. Not a premium scope by any means, but servicable. I can see 30cal and 6.5mm at 200yds. A premium scope can cost $3000+. I have heard some good things about the Vortex budget scope. I do use a Vortex PST and it has glass comparable to the Nikon and Leupold scopes that I use. Not that it applies to spotting scopes.
 
While doing some research, I found that the Redfield and Leupold spotting scopes are made in China. Wow I had a hard time believing that, but it is right on their websites. Does anyone know why they are being made in China and not Japan ? I had thought Japan made the best glass lenses for camera's and scopes. Is there any quality in the spotting scopes made in China ?
 
Abnother approach.

that will enable me to see 223 holes at 300 to 400 yds ?
Well, how about 500 to 1000 or less. ...... :confused:

Not trying to smart but recently saw a program where some guys set up a CCTV camera for long range shooting. The camera was focused at the target and the wireless image was transmitted to a monitor on the bench. I would think you could save a bunch of money by going this way and also used for other applications. Sorry but I cannot remember the name of the manufacturer
:confused:

Be Safe !!!
 
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There is no scope at the budget you mention that will allow you to see bullet holes at the distance you mentioned. Atmospherics conditions prevent you from seeing them and with the low end scopes all it will do is magnify the problem.

Distortion from atmospheric conditions can be minimized but only with the very high end premium scopes and even than on a good cool clear day distance at best is limited to maybe 400 yards.

I own a Nikon Full Field scope and in west Texas during the summer months heat is my enemy and I have to cut back on magnification by 50% of its potential since mirage is very bad.
 
I use a Leupold I got in a kit a few years back. As far as seeing the holes, get some light blue construction paper and use stickup dots for aiming point. Hole will just stand out for ya.
 
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