Splitting States EC Votes

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K80Geoff

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With the recent election still on everyones mind. This proposal by a NY State Senator to split NY States' votes between the downstate (NYC) and Upstate areas is one that I support. The following E mail from a fellow NY State gun rights Activist Tom Chandler explains further:
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From: Thomas A Chandler  <sacres@j...>
Date: Mon Dec 4, 2000 2:29pm
Subject: Fw: Possible legislation


Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:54:23 EST
Subject: Possible legislation
Message-ID: 35.d799512.275d182f@a...

To All,

NY Senator Mike Nozzolio, representing the 53rd district, is currently
taking
opinions on dividing NY's electoral college votes by region, rather than
the
current winner take all. Please comment to the numbers listed below and
pass
this on to your friends. This would be an important step for
neutralizing
the down state Democratic vote in Presidential elections. Let Senator
Nozzolio know how you feel.

E-mail:
NOZZOLIO@SENATE.STATE.NY.US

Phone numbers:
(315) 568-9816
(518)455-2366
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If you happen to look at that map showing the county by county vote you will notice that most of NY State actually went for Bush! This is also true of most of the really large states, including California and Pennsylvania.

Maybe it is time to give the people of NY State a voice that is unaffected by one small part of the state that throws every election to the Dems.


Geoff Ross
 
I know that Maine *does* split their electors, as does Nebraska(?) I think.

It seems to be a good system, but I don't know the intricacies of it well enough to say much more than that. It would sure be a far sight better than going with the popular vote! (Mob rule)
 
I don't know how I feel about it yet. I need to hear the pros and cons discussed thoroughly. One possible advantage I could see to, say, splitting EC votes by congressional districts (which I think is what Maine does) is that vote fraud in large, liberal cities would only be able to throw a few of the state's EC votes at the most to a certain candidate, as opposed to all the state's votes (which I suspect may have been the case this time around in Wisconsin). Perhaps this could be a way to further isolate the effects of localized vote fraud in the Presidential elections? Any thoughts?
 
New Hampshire splits by congressional district. Maine is winner-take-all. I'm not sure what the other state that splits does (it's either Nebraska or some other upper-plains state).

My concern with splitting by congressional district is that they tend to be very gerrymandered. On the plus side, changing would help the center-cities from being so vastly under-represented, as long as the districts weren't gerrymandered to ensure suburban majorities. Actually, they would almost certain be gerrymandered to help the 'burbs so I don't think this would help cities at all. It might help rural areas some, since those do tend to be gerrymandered to be distinct from the suburbs.

--folkbabe, who is ignoring the fact that ya'lls seem to have a very different idea of who benefits from the current situation than me.
 
You're right, folkbabe. If the presidential election was straight popular vote, GWB would be ordering new curtains for the Governor's Mansion right now.

I think that the sentiment being expressed is that if the EC was changed as proposed that GWB would have won in a landslide.

I agree with you regarding gerrymandering of districts as well. I used to be part of a mostly rural congressional district, but when we had a democRAT majority in congress, they redrew the lines and I got added to the nearby big city's district.

A month ago, my district went to algore. :(

It makes me look at that county-by-county national map a bit differently than y'all. Now I think I might have an idea of what it feels like to be a pro-liberty citizen in California.
 
I see it this way:

1) Change the EC so the electors are by district.

2) The electors MUST vote for the candidate who won the district.
 
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