Speer gold dot 9mm+p 124gr.

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Looked around for some numbers on this round, could'nt find anything. Anyone chronographed this load. Would like to know the Energy numbers as well. Shooting it out of a berreta 92fs with a 4.7 inch barrel.
 
I remember reading somewhere that this round goes 1130 fps out of a 4" barrel. I'd have to dig through stacks of gun pubs to find the article though.
 
I chronographed this ammo (Speer Gold Dot 124gr HP +P). I was using a CZ75 PCR model (compact alloy frame, 3.86" barrel). The Shooting Chrony Chronograph was approximately 10' from the muzzle. Here are the results:

1220 FPS
1246
1264
1224
1226
1230

Average: 1,235 FPS

I also checked S&B 115 FMJ and some 115gr Miwall/Winchester Silvertip (loaded by Miwall I think). The S&B averaged 1,191 FPS, and the Miwall ammo 1,160 FPS.

Note that I believe there is also Speer 124gr Gold Dot that is NOT +P - obviously it would have lower velocities.

Here's a link to a website with some more info on this: http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs9.htm

This Gold Dot +P ammo works well in my guns, tests well, and has a good reputation. I bought more. I'd buy a lot more if I could still get it for $7.95 a box (Miwall's sale price for a month or two).

Doug
 
I can't help you about the velocity, but it is very good ammo, shoots more accurately in my BHP than anything else that i have tried.
 
Hello. Chronographed from a Browning HP with standard bbl, the 10-shot average velocity for the Speer 124 gr +P Gold Dot is 1199 ft/sec and 1243 ft/sec from a CZ75.

Best.
 
Good ammo, NYPD, and Denver (among others) use it. Factory Specs are 1220fps, 410ft-lbs

http://greent.com/40Page/ammo/9/9mm.htm <--- has a lot of bullets, velocity, energy (all factory data though...)

The speed out of your own gun, can be more or less, every gun is different. Though factories with 9mm are *supposed* to test with a 4" barrel.

-Morgan
 
DougB,

Miwall did not have it for a few of the gun shows, but did at the last show (I picked up 10 boxes).

You may wish to check with them again.
 
MiWall, I bought a case from them for 179.00, it was re-classed not for LEO use for some reason, I shot 500 rounds of it to be sure, very hot, very reliable, BHP loves it. I do think if its reclass they should say so up front, but from the price I suspected and had to see. Turned out well.
 
Jager1,
Miwall had it at a recent gun show - it's just that they'd raised the price from $7.95 to $9.95 a box. I had planned to buy a case (case prices had been $7.75/box). Anyway, I bought a few more boxes, but was disconcerted about the price increase. I think it's still a decent price, but not nearly as good as $7.75.

Does anyone know what the "Re-classed not for LEO" means? The ammo I bought didn't say this, but I've seen apparently the same ammo marked this way. I have no idea what the implication is - can anyone shed light on this?

Doug
 
DougB,

I have heard that some of the 9mm 124 grain +P Gold Dot being sold had these stickers (reclassified - not for LE use) and have seen some boxes labeled as such on other vendors tables. None that I have purchased from Miwall bear the labels (essentially a sticker placed on each box). I would think it to controversial for a company to intentionally remove those labels, however, that may bear some inquiry.

I have seen a letter posted on the web that was supposed to be a response from the head honcho at Speer on this issue (people always suspect a good deal). In it, he stated that the ammunition should not be used for defensive purposes but would be fine for plinking. It has been alleged elsewhere that the ammunition was destined for a police contract but failed some of the test criteria. I have seen no details offered regarding what criteria were not met.

I have shot several hundred rounds and the accuracy is excellent and informal "water-jug" testing has provided consistent results with regard to penetration and expansion (I have 3 different lot numbers and have tested each). The affect on water jugs is astounding for a 9mm round at 15 feet (plan on getting wet) and exceeds the standard velocity 124 grain Gold Dot by all measures.

Finding no fault with these rounds myself, I have chosen to carry them as defensive ammunition. The caveat would be locating the letter from Speer and deciding for yourself if it bears any consideration.

I will attempt to locate the letter myself. No promises and be patient. I roam over many boards and have a short memory. Unless some other TFL attendee may have a copy of it to post?
 
Found a reference to it.

Found it at the following link:

http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?topic=3142&forum=24

"Reclassified" ammo from Speer/Blount. "The ammunition that has been reclassified somehow failed to meet a contract stipulation. It is safe to shoot. Most is likely suitable for defensive use, but it would depend on the exact problem. A large quantity fell out for poor nickel plating on the cases. This nickel plating would not compromise the use of the ammunition, but flaking could present functional problems. Inspection of the ammunition you have should be able to determine if there is any worry in that regard. Other lots were reclassified for other reasons. In general I feel it is best to use it for practice and to prove functioning in the gun and stay with ammunition that was not reclassified for actual carry." - Guy Neill, Blount
Sporting Equipment Group
 
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