Speaking of sawed-off shotguns......

HappySig

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I usually hang out in the hand loading and reloading section, but I've got a shotgun question and I'm hoping that some of you fellas could shed some light on it.

A friend of mine's father recently passed away and her and her mother were starting to clean out the house and they found a shotgun and they did not know what to do with it so they gave it to me. It's very short. The barrel itself is 18 1/2 inches and the overall length is 35 1/2 inches. I called the local police department here in Las Vegas and they said the minimum length for a shotgun barrel is 12 inches.<----:eek: sounds dangerous to me.

On the top of the right barrel it says: Florida firearms Corp.

The strip down the center says: 12 gauge 3 inch magnum shells --M&F

On the top of the left barrel it says: By Zabala Hnos. S.R.C. - EIBAR Made in Spain.

Can anybody tell me about this gun? It seems as if it's a very solid. It doesn't seem to have been sawed off in someone's garage. But I'm certainly not an expert. The front sight is installed. To me, this looks the way the gun came.

As I look at the end of the barrel, although both barrels are very thin, it looks as if the end of the barrels have some sort of microscopic chamfer on them, it's almost impossible to see, but it is there, so it doesn't look like this would be just a straight cut off job.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I am certainly very leery about firing this gun, although I have plenty of other toys to play with, I'm just trying to see where I stand with this, and wrap this issue up, I don't know if this would be something a person would want for HD. If I totally chicken out, I might just wait till the local police department here has the guns for gift certificates deal.

Thanks again and have a safe and happy Labor Day weekend.
 

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Your PD is wrong. Minimum shotgun barrel length without permits is 18". Get a gunsmith to look it over to see if it's safe. It's probably perfectly OK to shoot. Just make sure you buy the hottest buck shot you can and shoot both barrels at once. (Just kidding, don't do that. It hurts.)
 
FULLY LEGAL!!! You were misinformed... With out jumpin' thru the federal poodle hoops to go the NFA of 1934, You must have barrel/s of 18" or longer... the reason most will be 18 1/2" is to take into account stingy stretched federal/local LEO tape measures...

Brent
 
Don't be skeered... It is a modern firearm suitable for any modern 3" shell... I would love to put it to GOOD USE... It is a Spanish made gun likely imported into Miami...

Brent
 
My local Police Department doesn't know its own laws?......... comforting, very comforting......<--- said with extreme sarcasm.........

Anyways, thank you very much for everybody's input.

I guess I forgot to ask one of the main questions, and that is considering this gun is in fair condition I wonder how much it's worth?
 
No, your local PD doesn't know federal law. It's scarily common - the more you learn gun laws, the more you'll notice that many of those that should, don't.
 
Eibar is a town in the Basque region of Spain. Well known for gun making.

Zabala makes decent mid grade shotguns, mostly doubles.

The barrels have been shortened, possibly ruining the regulation. That means the barrels may shoot to different points. A patterning board will tell.

Have your smith look it over. Once established that it's sound, go have fun with it.
 
Worth will be likely "under $200" on the open market but some feller may want to pay more while many will offer much less... Me? I would pay $130-150 if I had it to spend when I see the gun for sale...

Brent
 
Thanks again everybody. That's about what I expected the worth of it to be considering it's in such rough shape.

I will take it to the gunsmith and this coming week. If all checks out, I should be good to go. And ready to move on to my next task....LOL
 
The Zabala guns were available new in that barrel length. It is a quality Spanish double. A comparable gun, manufactured today, would cost upwards of $500. The Zabala is a lightweight gun. They did have some problems with soft sears that caused "doubling." Load one round, shoot it, and make sure the other firing pin is still cocked afterwards-then do the same with the other barrel.
 
Zabala Hermanos is a low to mid level Spanish gun - good quality for the price; not up to AyA or the other high-enders, but still better than most of others available

Good shooters.........enjoy
 
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