SP-01 after-market triggers.

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As some know I had a little trouble adjusting to the reach of my SP-01's trigger in DA with my "marginally too short" fingers. I've learnt to live with it, but nonetheless, in DA the heavy curve of the standard trigger almost twists my fingertip at the joint until it has travelled about half of the distance to the SA setting. Not a massive problem in competitions as it will be the first shot in DA if in condition 2.

Previously people has sung the praises of Cajun GunWorks drop-in kits to reduce the DA take-up but the fabulous ITAR means they won't be shipped outside the US so no point trying that!!

So anyway.... on the website of my local IPSC store I found triggers by Eemann. There is a hooked trigger which is flat witha hooked end, as opposed to being curved along its full length a la standard. The other style is all flat.

There is a further option: the flat/hooked version that is "back-shifted" for small fingers!

So my questions:
  1. Has anyone trigger an Eemann trigger?
  2. What is the advantage of the flat trigger?
  3. Is the back-shifted version likely to work?
 
Better to change the grips. Triggers require fitting by a smithy, regardless of the brand.
Rugers are far more forgiving for those of us with normal length fingers than say a Smith.
 
Rugers are far more forgiving for those of us with normal length fingers than say a Smith.
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I have to say that my Redhawk, for such a big gun, gives me none of the DA reach problems I get from the CZ. Very nicely proportioned.
 
All of the Eenmann triggers are listed that they work in Single Action Only models. So they won't even function in DA mode. From the pics they have pre and over travel screws to reduce pre/over travel in SA.
 
They used to make an SA only shadow. Anyhow I'd convert it and run it cocked and locked. I really have no use for a double action pull.
 
SA has its advantages but I still hold on to the hope that gun laws will relax allowing a DA gun to be carried Condition 2 as it would make that gun as safe as DA/SA a revolver, which can be carried fully loaded.

At present semis are Condition 3 carry only.

The likelihood of their allowing Condition 1 is more remote, IMO.

When half cocked and with the safety engaged, I feel my SP-01 is even safer than a revolver. The heavier DA pull remains as with a revolver and has the safety engaged. Will the law-makers ever see it that way?
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I didn't think the standard SP-01 would let you actuate the safety while at half-cock position or hammer down. Almost positive mine won't, but I might need to re-test that when I get home!
 
I didn't think the standard SP-01 would let you actuate the safety while at half-cock position or hammer down.
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Mine does. If not a standard feature, then I'm quite happy.

It is a bit stiffer than fully-cocked so I think that perhaps, as I've shot it, there has been a bit of smoothing out to the point that the safety can slide across at half cock whilst there may have been a few micrometers of material preventing when new.
 
To the best of my knowledge (which may be out of date), if your SP-01 has the standard (non-Omega) trigger system and you can engage the safety when the hammer is in half-cock mode [or hammer down], something is worn or not working correctly.

(That doesn't mean immediate repair is needed, but it is NOT a normal feature of the the standard 75B/75 design.)
 
Mine is not an Omega.

I can't engage it hammer down, just in the half-cock position and it feels a little tighter to engaging than in full-cock. There must be a little more friction.

If it does not adversely affect the gun, I'm all for it.
 
Well, I'll field-strip the gun and have a look-see at the hammer/safety components to see if there are any signs of abnormal wear. If not, I'll leave alone.
 
Field stripping is unlikely to show you much, as the area where the safety interacts internally is obscured. And even then, unless you had one that was operating correctly to compare it too, you might not be able to see much difference. Looking at the parts diagram in the User's Manual might help, but ... I don't think any wear or breakage is likely to be obvious.

Asking about this on the CZ Forum might be worth your while, as there are real experts participating there. www.czfirearms.us/

You might also try contacting CZUB to see what the firm has to say about whether there is cause for concern.
 
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I did have a look and I noticed that if (holding the frame in the right hand and with the rail pointing to the left) the hammer is cocked there is a metal tab on the slide closest to you that raises a fraction and the safety can slide under it when the hammer is fully cocked and the safety activated.

When the hammer is down, that tab is lower and blocks the rotation of the part of the safety catch that would otherwise slide under it.

Now, when the hammer is half cocked, that same metal tab raises also, but not to the same decree as when fully-cocked. What I have see is that if I engage the safety, the rotating safety "cam" can just nudge that tab high enough to then be able to slide under it and activate.

It seems to be a case of micrometers of metal lining up to make a half-cock safety possible. It also explains why there is a little more resistance (but not much) when the "half-cock safety" is engaged.
 
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