I just picked up a 6.5x55 sweedish mauser that was sporterized with a Richards percision style laminated stock that has been bedded, timmony trigger, with a descent 3x9 older Tasco scope, & 350 rnds of ammo, 120 tumbled brass, and full size reloading dies, and 100 6.5mm bullets to reload all for $350. Best i can tell by looking is that i got a good deal for just the ammo. And a great deal for everything together Took it to the range and with military surplus ammo i could only get a 1" group. So i have high expectations for handloads and factory ammo.
Someone got hosed in this deal
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tahunua001
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sounds like you made out like a bandit.
Unlicensed Dremel
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Well, as long as the seller is happy, you should be too. Does he FEEL hosed? If yes, the celebration / gloating isn't needed.
Blindstitch
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Sounds like a good deal to me. I picked up a sporterized Type 38 Arisaka in a Mauser stock checkered up nicely and with a decent bushnell scope on it for $125. Came with a set of RCBS dies, box of 100 Hornady projectiles and 5 boxes or Norma ammo.
I was happy as hell just like you should be.
I was happy as hell just like you should be.
nemesiss45
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Why cant I ever find deals like that?
Brotherbadger
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Yea, it depends. My father inherited a few models he already owned when my grandfather passed. He sold them for much less than they were worth. I assumed he got swindled, but he told me something i'll never forget:
"You don't always have to get a max profit on something. Seeing someone happy and knowing they will enjoy the firearm more than makes up for the loss of a few dollars. Hopefully someday he will do the same for someone else."
Maybe the dude was just being a good guy and passing along a deal to OP.
As others have said, if the seller was happy, you should be too. You got a good deal. Don't fall into thinking that someone has to win and someone has to lose in a transaction, it just clouds your thinking.
FWIW, the going price for a Swede 1896 rifle is about $350, so it just proves that if you put $300 into a $350 rifle, you still have a $350 rifle. Enjoy it.
FWIW, the going price for a Swede 1896 rifle is about $350, so it just proves that if you put $300 into a $350 rifle, you still have a $350 rifle. Enjoy it.
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tahunua001
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actually in this case if you put $300 into a $250 rifle you end up with a $200 rifle.
RE getting hosed: I've been hosed by my own ignorance and was taken advantage of by others who were more savvy. It's my own fault but I still resent them not informing me of my own stupidity. I consider that dishonest unless it's an auction in which case "if I don't then someone else will... and there's no opportunity to inform the seller". Let the flames begin.
Claude Clay
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Mike, I am solid with you
in my neighborhood I've often been asked for advice concerning gun values. especially where relatives have left something and the new owners are clueless . i'll take the time to explain how a gun store arrives at a amount and if I am interested in it -- that is what i'll offer. otherwise, they at least understand how a gun can sell for new 400$ but the store only offers 200 cash or 225$ trade for it used. and that's if they want that item...
( 400 new, used -80 = 320 re- sale price; than 50% markup... so to the store it is worth to buy at 200 -225)
but 350$ for the OP's rifle is a great deal.
I sold a flawless Defender to a friend of my daughters for a solid 100$ under what I easily could have asked for. but he was knowledgeable and even made 3 time payments to have it. we agreed that my daughter has right of 1st refusal if he sells it. all smiles
in my neighborhood I've often been asked for advice concerning gun values. especially where relatives have left something and the new owners are clueless . i'll take the time to explain how a gun store arrives at a amount and if I am interested in it -- that is what i'll offer. otherwise, they at least understand how a gun can sell for new 400$ but the store only offers 200 cash or 225$ trade for it used. and that's if they want that item...
( 400 new, used -80 = 320 re- sale price; than 50% markup... so to the store it is worth to buy at 200 -225)
but 350$ for the OP's rifle is a great deal.
I sold a flawless Defender to a friend of my daughters for a solid 100$ under what I easily could have asked for. but he was knowledgeable and even made 3 time payments to have it. we agreed that my daughter has right of 1st refusal if he sells it. all smiles
steveNChunter
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Gun Trading 101:
There are three types of people in the gun and ammo buying/selling/trading scene.
1. There are profiteers with no conscience looking to screw somebody any way they can.
2. There are honest people looking to buy/sell/trade something for what it's worth or what they have invested and leave both parties satisfied. This type is sometimes uninformed about what they have and can be easily "hosed" by a type 1
3. And there are collectors (also honest people, usually) that aren't concerned quite as much with what they have to pay to get what they're looking for, but also want a very high value if they sell or trade.
Type 2, if they aren't wise, can easily get taken for a ride by type 1, type one can also take advantage of type 3's desire to own something rare or hard to find. It's hard for type 2 to buy from type 3 because their priorities are different.
It's best to deal with type 2's, steer clear of type 1's, and do your homework before dealing with type 3's.
The OP sounds a little like a type 1 unless the seller just offered this deal without any "talking down".
There are three types of people in the gun and ammo buying/selling/trading scene.
1. There are profiteers with no conscience looking to screw somebody any way they can.
2. There are honest people looking to buy/sell/trade something for what it's worth or what they have invested and leave both parties satisfied. This type is sometimes uninformed about what they have and can be easily "hosed" by a type 1
3. And there are collectors (also honest people, usually) that aren't concerned quite as much with what they have to pay to get what they're looking for, but also want a very high value if they sell or trade.
Type 2, if they aren't wise, can easily get taken for a ride by type 1, type one can also take advantage of type 3's desire to own something rare or hard to find. It's hard for type 2 to buy from type 3 because their priorities are different.
It's best to deal with type 2's, steer clear of type 1's, and do your homework before dealing with type 3's.
The OP sounds a little like a type 1 unless the seller just offered this deal without any "talking down".
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let the buyer beware as been around for a long time, so the seller should also beware. either one should inform themselfs about what they are selling or buying. if i am offered a 400.00 item for 200.00 i would buy it, but if i am offered the same 400.00 item for 600.00 i would walk away, after all it is you and the seller/buyers choice. i bought a very nice winchester 1892 special order(takedown,half oct-rnd barrel) for the price of a regular 1892, not cheap but less than it was worth. was it my fault that the seller didn,t do his home work and that i did the research needed to know what the true worth was? how many here have gone into a gun shop and found a real bargain on the rack, say a pre 64 win .270 with a 3x9 leupold for 500.00 and told the dealer its worth 800-900 dollars and thats what you will give him for it? i didn,t think so. eastbank.
hbhobby... I respect that you informed the seller he could get more for his items. That's pretty rare these days. In that case, I would've bought just as you did.
FWIW, I've let several sellers off the hook after I won auctions (eBay). Those were buy-it-now deals and they had accidentally left a zero off the end of the price. After I won I asked if they really wanted to sell their items at such bargain prices. Each time they asked to be let off the hook. I did so, disappointed but without regret.
FWIW, I've let several sellers off the hook after I won auctions (eBay). Those were buy-it-now deals and they had accidentally left a zero off the end of the price. After I won I asked if they really wanted to sell their items at such bargain prices. Each time they asked to be let off the hook. I did so, disappointed but without regret.
Many years ago I purchased a new, not new model, Ruger Blackhawk 3 screw flat top in 41 magnum from a pawn shop for just what they had in it, slightly over $100 bucks. The fellow never came back to get it and I wanted it bad. He was asking quite a bit more, but after several trips by to drool over his counter top he let me have it for his cost. Both of us were happy.
Several years down the road, even knowing what I had, I swapped it even for a used Redhawk in the same caliber. Again both of us were happy. I knew then that the BH was fetching more in the condition I kept it and the model it was. Even so I had originally wanted the RH and even finding one used back then was unheard of.
On another occasion I walked into a local gunshow and carried in my pop's old Colt Army Special in 38 SPL. Several vendors were VERY interested in it, and offered me up to $400 in cash then and there. I didn't really have a clue as to the worth other than sentimental to me, but figure if they were willing to offer me that up front, I might well just hang on to it for a while.
It works both ways no doubt. Just as long as nobody is left feeling screwed over it usually works out well. Carma however, has a way of working things out in the long run though.
Several years down the road, even knowing what I had, I swapped it even for a used Redhawk in the same caliber. Again both of us were happy. I knew then that the BH was fetching more in the condition I kept it and the model it was. Even so I had originally wanted the RH and even finding one used back then was unheard of.
On another occasion I walked into a local gunshow and carried in my pop's old Colt Army Special in 38 SPL. Several vendors were VERY interested in it, and offered me up to $400 in cash then and there. I didn't really have a clue as to the worth other than sentimental to me, but figure if they were willing to offer me that up front, I might well just hang on to it for a while.
It works both ways no doubt. Just as long as nobody is left feeling screwed over it usually works out well. Carma however, has a way of working things out in the long run though.
Sure Shot Mc Gee
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You did OK on that buy. No doubt about it. I like the 6.5x55 Sweed. Nice easy recoiling cartridge on the shoulder. Plenty powerful for just about anything hunted within reason & accurate too. I'm sure once you get a load recipe working your going to be more than please with your purchase. Hopefully no one got hosed in this buy though. The owner got what he wanted ($) out of the rifle & accessories. You got yourself a good rifle at a very reasonable price.
I think the reason the gun guy gave you a great price. You'll visit him occasionally and see what else he has for sale now & then. Treat a customer good you'll see that same buyer browsing one's stock/shelves more often. No doubt about that either. (Lucky) to find such a deal you were. Is there a little Irish in your heritage Sir?
Congrads, on that recent rifle purchase hbhobby.
I think the reason the gun guy gave you a great price. You'll visit him occasionally and see what else he has for sale now & then. Treat a customer good you'll see that same buyer browsing one's stock/shelves more often. No doubt about that either. (Lucky) to find such a deal you were. Is there a little Irish in your heritage Sir?
Congrads, on that recent rifle purchase hbhobby.
^^^ About three months ago I sold every round of .22LR, .22WMR and .17HMR I had to the ONE local pawn shop here. They'ed been asking for months to buy my stash. I did "okay"... not fantastic but fair enough. Two days ago I offered to sell some 12ga, .270 and .243. That same pawn shop offered me 25 cents on the dollar vs. anywhere else they could get it. I asked why the low-ball offer and they said, "We don't want to get stuck with ammo we can't sell quickly and make a large profit on". Really?! I guess they didn't make enough on the .22 ammo they bought and wanted to hose me on the other. In fact, they seemed to exhibit a bit of animosity toward me even though I accepted the prices they offered which were lower than current market value. I refused... and drove down the block to the ONE local gun shop here who offered a far fairer deal.
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