Some Facts About Ethanol

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Ethanol Eco-Disaster
by Bill Walker
by Bill Walker



(Fade in) The delicate, fainting environment is in distress; it can’t pay its fuel bill. Heroic Merry Men of the IRS carrying MP5s and wearing green tights hold up the sneering, selfish, unworthy middle class. They give the looted bank accounts to the noble corn-ethanol producers. The chairman of Archer Daniels Midland rides off into the beautiful sunset on his yacht, waving his stock options. (The Happy Ending)

The Math-based Version

Let’s take the very rosiest assumptions for corn ethanol, from the paid PR flacks who lobby for the subsidy. They claim that it takes 35,000 BTUs of energy to make 77,000 BTUs of ethanol from corn. No one else gets a ratio anywhere near that good; some calculations show that corn ethanol actually costs energy to make (and fuel ethanol only has 76,100 BTU per gallon according to the EPA). But even this most unrealistic case assumes that about half the energy in a gallon of subsidized ethanol has to come from somewhere else. For comparison, it takes around 22,000 BTU to make a gallon of gasoline. Gasoline contains about 114,000 BTU per gallon, so there’s a clear energy profit.

Looking at market price instead of BTUs, on June 6 wholesale cost for ethanol was around $2.67 per gallon, vs. 2.09 for gasoline. This isn’t counting the cost of the subsidies; even cheating, corn ethanol still isn’t as good as gasoline. And mixing the ethanol in to make gasohol adds further refining costs.

So, the ethanol programs force us to pay more per gallon for a diluting fuel additive that gives only 2/3 the miles per gallon. This means more gas station stops, more wasted time and gas. And the ecological effect of each fuel?

Oil-based gasoline comes from very small drill holes in deserts, tundra, and sea bottoms. US ethanol is made from corn, grown in large dusty monoculture fields that must be covered with pesticides and herbicides. Ethanol programs subsidize soil destruction, deforestation, habitat destruction, and bunny-killing.

All so-called "biofuels" are a step backward ecologically. The US has reforested; 59% of the northeastern US is now forest. The eastern US has more forested acres now than in the mid-1800s. This reforestation is due to our replacement of biofuels with higher-tech oil, gas, and nuclear power. If we allow the market to improve our technology, eventually we would only use "biofuel" for grilling our salmon.

Not too many people are in favor of cutting down forests, polluting streams, and exterminating wildlife for money-losing programs that make us all worse off. So why has welfare for corporate moonshiners lasted since 1980? Some say that it is because these programs transfer billions to a few powerful people, while inflicting only a few hundred or perhaps a thousand dollars in damage on each American. Thus the concentrated interest has incentive for rent-seeking campaign contributions, while the burden on the average worker is lost among all the other taxes and government-sponsored cartel and monopoly exactions.

But there is also another ecological factor here: infosphere pollution. Those who benefit from multi-billion-dollar subsidies will spend tens of millions to spew polluting memes into the media. Thus, false science and economic fallacies fill up our hard drives and our minds, outcompeting the unsubsidized species.

According to the Environmental Working Group (a generally pro-ethanol group), corn subsidies alone were at least 41.9 billion from 1995–2004. The EWG points out that US politicians (including Hillary) have only supported expensive subsidized ethanol; overseas ethanol from more-efficient sugar cane production is kept out by tariffs. (So don’t write me that someone in Brazil has a great ethanol production company. I’m sure they do, but you can’t buy from them!)

Of course corn isn’t the only thing subsidized. From the evil-stained pages of the Fedronomicon, here’s the 2007 Department of Agriculture budget. Note that under the rigid fiscal restraint of the Republican "Contract With America," the budgetary authority for this one agency in FY 2007 is $96.4 billion. Those interests trying to capture this money will spend a lot to misinform the public.

Can we overcome infosphere pollution? Or are we doomed to pay for the destruction of our own environment, because the majority of media is produced specifically to confuse us into supporting parasitic special interests? Find out in the next exciting episode!

July 24, 2006

Bill Walker [send him mail] works in HIV and gene therapy research in Rochester, Minnesota.

Copyright © 2006 LewRockwell.com
 
Wow. looks like the Eco-freaks are out in force.

1. Oil may come from holes in the ground, but most of those holes are in the middle east. we can grow corn here at home.

2. "Thus, false science and economic fallacies fill up our hard drives and our minds, outcompeting the unsubsidized species." OK um false sceince and economic falliacies have driven evrey automaker in the world to build ethanol capable cars? 20 years of sceintific study and economic background research dont mean squat huh?

Plus why in F*** does someone who does HIV and gene research have any standing in the field of ethanol?

Go back and join the rest of the tree hugging hippies.

SW

Edit for spelling
 
Damn, I'm really surprised that it took this long for someone to come out of the woodwork and start screeching about this...

"This reforestation is due to our replacement of biofuels with higher-tech oil, gas, and nuclear power."

Bull****.

Much of the reforestation is directly related to the fact that a single farm acre today can product anywhere from 10 to 50 times what a farm in the 1800s produced, and do it to a higher quality. The nation was largely denuded of forests in many areas to support food-based agriculture -- human consumables.
 
I always wondered if wood alcohol would be a more efficient method. Plant trees, come back in 15 years and chop away. What we need for sure is more renewable power sources. Like wind, solar, breeder reactors. Etc. Combine with realtime pricing and you have a reasonable solution. It's gota be windy somewhere and if you put up enough wind turbines in enough places you are gona have power. If you do get a big calm, jack up the price of power and people will use less.

/Saving up for a moped next year.
 
Ethanol attracts moisture

and it takes more of it compared to gas to drive one mile. Yes it will help growers but will be taxed the same. I've been trying one oz acetone to 5 gals fuel. Get back on that.
 
Ethanol is less fuel efficient{anyone who has used it will verify this} cost more to make, and pollutes more to make. It is as big a scam as recycling.
If it were profitable to do so it would not need government subsidies.{the recycling exception being aluminum and other metals}
 
Show me proof it pollutes more than crude oil based fuels. The by-products of ethanol production are pure water that is released in to the enviroment for cattle and wildlife, what is called "distillers cake" (the remnats of the grain after all the sugar is removed) which is an excellent cattle feed, grain ethanol, and heat. The only POSSIBLE pollutant is heat and most ethanol plants use excess heat for HVAC purposes. Plus the EPA doesnt classify heat as a pollutant unless it is hot water relased into rivers where damage to fish may result. Sorry Hoji but your statements are flawed and show a complete lack of understanding of the basic process of making ethanol. Plus as i stated before why is someone who works in the gene therapy field considered a worthwhile souce on ETHANOL?

SW
 
Lets settle this for good !!!

Bring in an EXPERT , " Al Gore " and find the truth about ethanol production...Certainly, noone is more authoratative than he.:barf:



One thing you are not considering.......The majority of our excess grain production is sold to the rest of the world, on the WORLD market....far less than what the farmer receives for the production.....I wonder who makes up the difference....:confused:
 
Ethanol is a scam, IMO, just another sop for big agribusiness and assorted other cashers-in on government subsidies. In my midwest state, the governor has signed legislation requiring all gas stations in the state to sell ethanol within a couple years. Conviently, the governor's brother owns an ethanol processing plant.

In some other countries (Brazil and parts of Europe), biodiesel is produced from waste rather than from more expensive corn, and supposedly biodiesel vehicles get more mpg than others.

I wouldn't be surprised to see $4 a gallon gas within a year. After all, if we keep buying it at high prices, why would producers lower the price? It's in the interest of oil companies and producers to keep the price as high as possible. Isn't that the way capitalism is supposed to work?
 
Bender, ethanol is not supposed to entirely replace regular gas as a fuel. In fact pure ethanol wont burn in most modern vehicles. Even "flex-fuel" cars and trucks are desinged for a maximum limit of 85% ethanol blended fuel. The point is to stretch domestic oil supplies with a domestically produced ethanol additive. The water plant i work for provides water for six different ethanol plants and none of them have done anything more than bring new jobs to shrinking farm communitis, provide cheap cattel feed year round, provide farmers a new competetive market for thier grains and generally improve whatever community they are close to. Oh and BTW remember if it wasnt for ethanol, Everyone in california would be walking because they finally completed the MTBE removals from the supply system and it has been entirely replaced with ethanol.

SW
 
Goodness, I will try and remember some information that was put out by "Mother Earth News" in their Alcohol Fuels Seminars back around 1980.

First, when you talk about the BTU economy of Alcohol Fuels(AF) you must keep in mind that the Proof is the determining factor. 200proof requires more BTU input than you will get BTU output. 190proof is roughly the breakeven point. Below 190proof you will get more BTU output than the BTU input. The difference is a variable.

Second, you could make an internal combustion engine run on AF down to about 165 proof without expending major sums of engineering.

Third, Depending on your situation, you DID NOT necessarily need 200proof to make gasohol.

The major problem with AF today is that the major fuel producing corporations have been trying to determine how to make their cut and control of AF possible.

Note that most AF plants that I have seen have been talking about the use of 200proof AF.
 
Alternative, not a replacement. What will you do when the oil runs out? There is a reason why we still use oil and have not bothered to find a replacement. Right now it’s an alternative, what happens when it’s a replacement? Oil supposedly comes form dead dinosaurs and plants. As far as I know that’s a finite supply.

Edit; with more countries becoming industrialized the demand for oil goes up and so do the prices.
As stated before there is a finite supply. What happens when the supply can not keep up with the demand? Will you continue to pay soaring gas prices or will you consider alternative fuels, no matter how inefficient?
 
And what if world oil supplies have peaked? Some analysts say that it peaked on boxing day 2005. This means that the increased demand (China, India) will deplete the remaining half of world oil stocks very rapidly. Also the last half is the hardest to get out and the lowest grade product from any well. From my limited research I have determined that many oil companies are quietly buying up the companies that will make the alternatives to oil energy for transport and other applications.
 
Where does OPEC send their money? To fund terrorists so it would make sense for us not to line their pockets.
 
It's too bad moralistic bigots prevent the development of industrial hemp. Anything that can be made from petroleum can be made from hempseed oil, with no net increase in "greenhouse gasses." Carbon is recycled, not added to.
 
Hi, dirty liberal who occasionally will hug a tree just checking in...

I'm all for less polution, renewable resources and all those sorts of dirty hippy activities, I also enjoy burning enormous amounts of fossil fuels in my little turbocharger sports car, which isn't easy at $3.10/gal, and only going up.

Now, I've read alot of opinions on ethanol and E85, and I have yet to read anything really good from any car enthusists' opinions. None. If anything, I hear more from dirty hippies about how ethanol is the answer.

So, I'm now truly baffled by the majority of the posters here wholeheartedly embracing E85. It costs significantly more, and is subsidized by the government. It has a major detrimental affect on vehicles not built to use it, as Ethanol is highly corrosive on the fuel system. It does in fact pollute the enviroment, just with a different set of toxins what we measure from gasoline pollution. Its been stated numerous times over that it costs more in energy to create than it produces (alas, the problem with most of the alternative fuels), and despite these facts it provides LESS miles per gallon and power than gasoline.

gfen, who wishes he had a turbo diesel.
 
Within the lifetime of the average 30 to 40 year old, we're going to have to rethink what we expect from personal transport. In the short to medium term at least that will mean less performance (drastically) and more infrequent usage. Economics will make it so, the big guy aint makin' no more oil:(
 
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