Some basic FAL questions

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Being mostly a handgun / shotgun guy I have become interested in my CAI FAL I bought about four years ago. I prob have about 500 rnds through it without a bump. What is the difference between and L1A1, FAL, or and STG58 or all they the same thing? Mine is built on a Imbel receiver with I think a Canadian parts set. Like I said good so far. What parts do I need to replace to avoid the problems most often associated with CAI guns. I have a AGI video and have taken it all pretty much apart several times, the most recent to paint the furniture OD. I even had my dad make me a stock tool. I know these are some rookie questions and would appreciate any and all help.
 
FAL Questions

Hi.

I just bought a Century FAL last week. $429 from Wholesale Guns and ammo. The use of US parts has made the original pistol grip configuration possible again, and I don't believe they are currently offering the post-ban Thumbhole model anymore.

I'm new to FAL's as well, but have read up on them for awhile.


L1A1's are "inch pattern" guns from G.B. and also might refer to N.Z., Aussie, and the Canadian C1, or parts kits from them. They are made to Inch/Imperial specifications, and are mostly identical to all other FAL's, and mny of the parts will interchange with metric guns, although some things differ like threading of barrels is different than the metric standards, and details like handgaurd and stock shapes, lack of an integrated bipod, the sights, and a folding handle on the cocking lever.

The StG58's are Austrian FAL parts made to the metric specifications. They have bipods, a handgaurd that accomodates the folded bipod, a non-folding cocking handle, etc.
They are popular perhaps because they more closely follow the "Continental" metric pattern established by FN in Belgium?

Inch receivers also use slightly differnt magazines than the metric guns, the inch mag has a welded solid steel lug on the front edge, and the metric lug is just a stamped dimple. Inch guns will lock and function with the Metric mags, but not vice-versa. Metric mags have been more common, and cheaper in the past, perhaps making the metric pattern guns more popular as well. Inch mags are often deemed slightly more durable than metric, but the difference is probably negligable. Currently inch magazines seem to be as common as the metric, and sell for the same prices.

I'm not sure if either inch or metric is really better, mainly it seems to be the affections shown to the particular variant the shooter/collector loves the most, just like many other firearms.

The Century guns are a mix of parts, Mainly inch parts on a Metric receiver, with some minor modifications to threading etc. to make them fit. There have been problems, but usually center around the quality of assembly, not the parts themselves. But their reputation overall is adequate, and a good value for the price paid.

I think the biggest compaint I see about Centry guns seems to be bent gas pistons. DS Arms and others have US parts kits of various comninations, either for repairs or making a pistol-grip legal rifle.

Centruy has also re-assembled Inch guns on Inch recievers, and Metric guns on Metric recievers. Many of the recievers were manufactured by Imbel of Brazil, who has a FN-spec factory and process to produce them. Other than Pre-Ban FAL's, the Imbel reciever seems to be the "gold standard" right now. Other manufacturers such as Hesse and Enterprise make US produced recievers.

There has been an influx of inexpensive $100-$200 parts kits that have continued to come into the US. Since they lack receivers, or have cut receivers, they are not a firearm and can be sold mail-order. This has sprung a huge industry from the home gunsmith, the gustom medium-production gunsmith, to the large importers like Century, of people building these rifles in a bewildering number of variations, and combinations.

Check out the FAL Files board for more (than you could ever think to ask!) info.

http://www.l1a1.com/cgi-bin/forums/ultimatebb.cgi

Andrew
 
Good job Andrew. That pretty much sums up what you need to know about Century FALs and of course, check out the FAL Files.

I got my first FAL last January, a Hesse built STG. Now I'm on my third kit. It's like they say, FALs are an additction.
 
This is what I love about TFL ... and, it is a great example for any other field of interest. "Rookie" questions are welcome and answered with gusto, and all benefit in the process. The 'net at its best.

Enjoy your FAL ... I have a DS Arms FAL on my Christmas list ... ;)

Regards from AZ
 
One of the easy ways to tell a "Inch" pattern FAL from a "Metric" is by the method of attaching the pistol grip.

Metric FALs have a stud that protrudes below the gripframe,on which the P-grip slides over and is secured by a nut from inside the P-grip.

Inch FALs have a P-grip that is secured to the gripframe by a screw that goes up through the P-grip from below. There is a metal plate along the front of the P-grip that covers this screw.

It's usually easier to find parts for a Metric FAL, but they are equals.

If your FAL runs well after 500 rounds, it's probably not going to mess up any time soon, so enjoy it.
 
Someone needs to post the link:

The FAL Files

Great image of an STG58 on the home page. Good forums there, too. Lots of RKI's, and, while not as heavily moderated as TFL, BS generally gets exposed pretty quickly.
 
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