So how does a MAC-11 machine pistol end up at the local airport?

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It seems that an electrician pulling wire found a cased MAC-11 machine pistol in the ceiling above a closet. There was no ammo and no one can come up with how it got there in the first place; but they are sure it has nothing to do with any terrorist plot. How they came to that instantaneous conclusion is beyond me.

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MAC-11 machine pistol discovered in JFK airport terminal (VIDEO)

The discovery of a MAC-11 machine pistol on Thursday at one of JFK’s largest airport terminals raised some major security concerns. Jamaica, Queens Port Authority officials are wondering how the weapon ended up in the ceiling of a maintenance closet, and how it was able to slip past security.

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Since it is outside the secure area I bet someone who worked there stashed it at some point. Maybe stole it from luggage and stashed it there.

THe better question is how did it get into the state of NY? :)
 
The picture shown looks like the real thing.
Wouldn't it be funny if what was found was an airsoft replica, though.
In gun paranoid and ignorant NY, it could happen.
 
Clipboards & boxes....

It's common knowledge even in the post- 9/11/2001 era that there are serious problems with security & counter-terrorism plans re; staffs, service areas, fuel depots, control towers(FAA offices), etc.
Employees & aircrews are sometimes not checked like airline customers.
Vendors, contractors & support personnel also go in/out of areas too. :rolleyes:
I heard from a guy who had relatives in southern CA & worked around LAX for a major package delivery service that some staff members would tip off local gang members or thieves about high value items/major shipments, then the gangs would go directly to the warehouse/holding area & steal it.

Airfields & ports are not very safe or secure IMO. They are to large & have 100s or 1000s of workers/visitors.

Like the old joke goes, you can sneak in nearly anywhere with a clipboard or carry a big box.
 
It seems that an electrician pulling wire found a cased MAC-11 machine pistol in the ceiling above a closet. There was no ammo and no one can come up with how it got there in the first place; but they are sure it has nothing to do with any terrorist plot.
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They are SURE?

I'll buy THAT for a dollar ......if it it was your dollar, and I did not need it for anything.... :rolleyes:

I think oraganized crime is more likely than international terrorism .....

This is the same JFK International Airport of The Lufthansa Heist fame, after all ......

What I am pretty certain of is that the .gov hasn't any more clue than you or I how that got there, and are certain of very little...... but will lie to you and say they are on top of it, in order to inspire confidence ......
 
It's easier than many think to get contraband to the airside (alleged secure side) of an airport.
I was made aware of a "hole in the wall" at a major international airport in the US that was reported before 9/11 that would facilitate moving a weapon between land side and air side. Last time I went through, it's still there.

As the security mantra notes, a dedicated attacker will succeed.
 
Remember when the guy carried a Glock through TSA last year in a soft duffel. ACCIDENTALLY. The results for the gov't tests of TSA are pathetic even when you consider they use people more or less trained on passing TSA to run the tests. I think it has stayed above 50% for knives and 25% for guns since 9/11. Of course, i is down from pre-9/11 miss rates.
 
SEATAC area; Seattle Times news item....

In the SEATAC area of Seattle WA nearly half of the gun/weapon arrests by police & TSA staff were prosecuted. Only 50% of the subjects with known weapons ever faced criminal charges or fines.
The Seattle Times did that story last year.
 
The found weapon looks more like the semiauto M11 to me.
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Amd6547 I think you are correct. this looks like a Cobray "knock-off" of the Mac-10/11 series guns that are semiauto. Some of the older ones could be easily converted to full auto of course. But I don't think this is an actual Ingram MAC-11 machinepistol. The Ingrams have a noticeably shorter body, (receiver), and the MAC-11 was smaller then the MAC-10.

The Ingram MAC-11 is chambered for .380ACP so the magazine is also thinner as the rounds or shorter. This photo looks like a 25 round 9mm magazine. All told this weapon is probably less deadly then a Glock, at least you can hit what you are aiming at with a Glock.
 
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Well it's not an airsoft. They don't make replicas of the long-receivered 9x19mm Mac11s.

It's also unlikely to be a "machinegun" The AR-15 looking selector switch is on the left side on FA Macs and is actually a selector switch, the safety is a lever inside the trigger guard. On the semi auto clones, the safety is that rotating selector on the right side. Just more media spinning things to be something they're not.

From what I read in the fish wrap, that closet hasn't been used in years before the electrical work so it's possible it's been sitting up there all this time.
 
"I think I'll check my briefcase before I go through security, just in case .... Oh, heck, I forgot about THAT! I better stash it somewhere, quick."

Jim
 
Given that who ever put that gun up there was breaking a couple pages of laws just having that gun not only in the city where they found it but in the secured area of an airport I would suppose he was involved in any number of criminal activities. My guess would be that the owner either ended up in prison or dead and never had a chance to go back for his gun.
 
Did the case have dust on it? If so, how much. No dust means it was placed there very recently. The gun and case looked pretty clean to me.
 
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