So Burris, Bushnell, and Zeiss all have new laser rangefinder / riflescope combos...

FirstFreedom

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Just some random musings on these.

1. Interesting; always good to see something new. They apparently think they will sell well, as everyone's jumping on the bandwagon all at once, insted of waiting to see whether the other brands sell first.

2. It's not for me. Unless you put one on every rifle, then you still can't eliminate your need for carrying another rangefinder, so it seems a waste of money for me. But for the 1-rifle guy, I could see it being useful.

3. This is not gonna help cut down on the undesirable practice of hunters viewing *everything*, including other hunters, through their riflescopes. It will encourage this, as it encourages more reliance on but one optic in the field.

4. Though I'm not interested in these, I *am* going to be very interested in the Leupold WindRiver and Burris combo binoc/rangefinders, IF/WHEN they add the angle-correcting feature to give you true horizontal distance to target, accounting for up and down angles. Espec. the Leupold WR binoc rangefinder.

http://www.bushnell.com/products/rangefinder/specs/20-4124.cfm

http://www.riflescopes.com/departme...copes/zeiss_victory_diarange_rifle_scopes.htm

http://www.burrisoptics.com/laserscope.html

Wow, zeiss's website sucks beyond nearly all belief...
 
Hmmmm...

I saw the Burris awhile back... I'll stick with a regular scope ie. usually where I hunt I already have a very good idea about the distance of things and try to predetermine the yardage of various landmarks...so the rangefinder capacity in a scope...is going to be superfluous. Also, people need to learn how to get better use out of their binocular...and use the binocular to scan things... I like my scope to be clean and simple; I don't like a scope that can confuse me with 'too many facts' . :cool:
 
I like the idea of the built-in range finder. I need the help! Here in Nebraska, a shot can vary from 20 yards to 300 yards (or more). I'll bet the new scopes work better than the guessing technique.
 
I'd rather just get a pair of Leica rangefinding bino's since I do more bowhunting anyway. I have compared them to the Leupolds and there is no contest. Only problem is the price! $2000.00 vs around $600.00... :(
 
Range-finding binocs.

Well, the Leica would be great (geovid?), but exactly, I'd be lucky to save up enough for the Leupold. BTW, the Leupold WR one has apparently gone down from $699 to its current price of $499, which is pretty cool. At least over at www.theopticzone.com . I did not like the Bushnell for 2 reasons - it's too big, and I didn't like the way that the rangefinding feature would not take a measurement quickly enough (unlike my Bushnell regular rangefinder) - it would stall or hesitate before turning on and giving a reading, and this could get you off your small target that you are trying to measure in the meantime.
 
Good for a select few.

If you're the kind of guy that has to take shots out beyond 500 yds in every clime and place, then yeah. If you're a hunter, then you should already have range markers. If you shoot within 300 yds, most rifles shoot flat enough that range isn't that big of a deal as long as you understand the basics of what a bullet does when you zero it at 300. Range finder in a scope, I still don't like it. A good mil-reticle with the proper knowledge of how to use it (and practice) can get you to within 50 yds out to 1000.
 
So far, the comments against the rangefinder seem to be levied by those who don't like it because they don't need it.

But concerning those of us who would like to have range mechanically estimated (and who don't want to have to lug around a rangefinder), what's not to like?
 
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