Snubby 357 ballistics
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MellowMikey
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Not chrono work, but here goes.
This is what I have read in the gun rags over the years.
2"bbl
125jhp 1250+
158jhp 1100+
110jhp 1100+
Again these are from a gun rag using a 2"bbl Taurus, so your Ruger should get a little more out of them. I still have my 2.75" service six on layaway and know I will get a bit more velocity out of it than the Taurus numbers.
Hope this helps.
Mikey
This is what I have read in the gun rags over the years.
2"bbl
125jhp 1250+
158jhp 1100+
110jhp 1100+
Again these are from a gun rag using a 2"bbl Taurus, so your Ruger should get a little more out of them. I still have my 2.75" service six on layaway and know I will get a bit more velocity out of it than the Taurus numbers.
Hope this helps.
Mikey
Food for thought
Find a reliable source for information on the factory rounds you shoot. Most will give you information on either 8 3/8 or 6 inch barrel[s}. Subtract 30 feet per second for each INCH of barrel you do not have.
You can end up shooting a .357 Magnum at REGULAR .38 Special velocities.
Find a reliable source for information on the factory rounds you shoot. Most will give you information on either 8 3/8 or 6 inch barrel[s}. Subtract 30 feet per second for each INCH of barrel you do not have.
You can end up shooting a .357 Magnum at REGULAR .38 Special velocities.
I have chronographed the following in my 640 - 21/4" (I think)
125 gr Speer GDHP 1159fps From, a 3" M 60 vel 1253
110 gr Win HP White Box 1136
Neither of these loads is hot for a .357, in fact the 110 gr is a very moderate load. However, I don't want to shoot heavy 158 grainers in the j Frame .357 - RECOIL is fierce.
Jerry
125 gr Speer GDHP 1159fps From, a 3" M 60 vel 1253
110 gr Win HP White Box 1136
Neither of these loads is hot for a .357, in fact the 110 gr is a very moderate load. However, I don't want to shoot heavy 158 grainers in the j Frame .357 - RECOIL is fierce.
Jerry
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PreserveFreedom
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38spl vs 357 magnum
I have also been told that 38 Special and 357 Magnum were equal in preformance from a snubbie. One thing to keep in mind though...if you already shoot 357 Magnum, and you grab a box of ammo in a rush, you might grab magnums instead of 38's. In this case, you will be real glad that your revolver is magnum rated.
I have also been told that 38 Special and 357 Magnum were equal in preformance from a snubbie. One thing to keep in mind though...if you already shoot 357 Magnum, and you grab a box of ammo in a rush, you might grab magnums instead of 38's. In this case, you will be real glad that your revolver is magnum rated.
Doc Hudson
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re: I have also been told that 38 Special and 357 Magnum were equal in preformance fr
If you really believe that, I have a bridge with a nice view of Brooklyn for sale really cheap.
My S&W M-640 will turn out 1210 fps average for Federal premium 125 gr. JHP's and 1215 fps from white box Winchester 110 gr. JHP's.
Using Cor-Bon's heavy loaded 125 gr. JHP I got an average of 1260 fps and a well smacked knuckle.
Even 6" .38 SPL's won't give velocities like that.
BTW, Jerry, the M-640 and other J-frame snubbies .357's have 2 1/8" barrels. Odd that I got higher velocities with the 110 gr. bullets than you did.
Doc Hudson
P.S. .357 Mag ammo won't fit into a .38 SPL chamber, but I've quit putting magnum level reloads in .38 cases to prevent putting them in to my .38 Bodyguard. That is a strong little pistol but I would not want it subjected to the added stresses. LMH
If you really believe that, I have a bridge with a nice view of Brooklyn for sale really cheap.
My S&W M-640 will turn out 1210 fps average for Federal premium 125 gr. JHP's and 1215 fps from white box Winchester 110 gr. JHP's.
Using Cor-Bon's heavy loaded 125 gr. JHP I got an average of 1260 fps and a well smacked knuckle.
Even 6" .38 SPL's won't give velocities like that.
BTW, Jerry, the M-640 and other J-frame snubbies .357's have 2 1/8" barrels. Odd that I got higher velocities with the 110 gr. bullets than you did.
Doc Hudson
P.S. .357 Mag ammo won't fit into a .38 SPL chamber, but I've quit putting magnum level reloads in .38 cases to prevent putting them in to my .38 Bodyguard. That is a strong little pistol but I would not want it subjected to the added stresses. LMH
Bruce Banner
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Does anyone have any ballistic comparisons between the 2" and the 6" barrels in 357 mag? I am just wondering what the differnce is in FPS and FPE. Do you loose a bunch of energy?
Doc,
Thanks for the correction. It appears that my 640 is slower than yours. Your velocities with 125 gr are about what I got with the Speer GD out of my 3in M 60. The full house loaded .357 in a light gun has more recoil than I desire. A friend tried some of the Fed Personal Defense .357 rounds in his Taurus J frame, and they were unpleasant. Jerry
Thanks for the correction. It appears that my 640 is slower than yours. Your velocities with 125 gr are about what I got with the Speer GD out of my 3in M 60. The full house loaded .357 in a light gun has more recoil than I desire. A friend tried some of the Fed Personal Defense .357 rounds in his Taurus J frame, and they were unpleasant. Jerry
Doc Hudson
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Jerry,
If you really want you eyes opened, replace the Uncle Mike rubber grips on the M-640 with a set of skinny wooden J-frame grips. Then shoot a box full of Cor-Bon 125 gr. JHP's.
Let me suggest a shooting glove or at least wrap some tape around the knuckle of your second finger.
Those Cor-Bon loads really get your attention.
Doc Hudson
If you really want you eyes opened, replace the Uncle Mike rubber grips on the M-640 with a set of skinny wooden J-frame grips. Then shoot a box full of Cor-Bon 125 gr. JHP's.
Let me suggest a shooting glove or at least wrap some tape around the knuckle of your second finger.
Those Cor-Bon loads really get your attention.
Doc Hudson
Doc Hudson
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Funny thing about that M-640 of mine.
Jim Taylor let me shoot his .475 Linebaugh withfull powere hunting loads. OUCH!!! They made the .FA .454 seem tame in comparison.
I decided I'd better play with my Always Gun to prevent a worse flinch than usual.
After I fired a couple of cylinders of 158 gr. JPH's Jim tried it. Jim Taylor shoots heavy .45, .454. and .475 loads without a second thought. That 25 ounce M-640 with the skinny wooden grips turned the web of his hand red in five shots. Jim gave it back, shook his hand a few times and went back to shooting his boomers. he din't want any more of my pocket pistol.
Doc Hudson
Jim Taylor let me shoot his .475 Linebaugh withfull powere hunting loads. OUCH!!! They made the .FA .454 seem tame in comparison.
I decided I'd better play with my Always Gun to prevent a worse flinch than usual.
After I fired a couple of cylinders of 158 gr. JPH's Jim tried it. Jim Taylor shoots heavy .45, .454. and .475 loads without a second thought. That 25 ounce M-640 with the skinny wooden grips turned the web of his hand red in five shots. Jim gave it back, shook his hand a few times and went back to shooting his boomers. he din't want any more of my pocket pistol.
Doc Hudson
Doc Hudson
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Cruel Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was the one who could not close his hand for nearly a week!!!!!!!
Doc Hudson
P.S.
[Edited by Doc Hudson on 02-22-2001 at 09:07 PM]
I was the one who could not close his hand for nearly a week!!!!!!!
Doc Hudson
P.S.
[Edited by Doc Hudson on 02-22-2001 at 09:07 PM]