the guy at the store is the one that uses it for this reason not i, I use 5 shots of golden sabers or if im out at the time ill use remington umc 38 spcl. +p 125 gr. semi jckt hp. not snake shot, i beleive very much in 1 shot 1 kill placement and precision is what im about, so alot of practice is gonna be going into this snub. Today was one handed shooting with sights then with laser(ctc).