SMART GUNS

Glock_man

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i have been studying, reading articles, and watching shows on "smart guns," "personalized guns" or what ever you want to call them. but frankly it pisses me off!! This is just one more step to bend us over and stick the 2nd ammendment up our asses!! This thread comes up bc, the GOV. of maryland wants to pass a law that all guns sold after june 1 2003 have to be speicalized "smart guns." This was the last straw for me. I am glad i am in a profession where, guns will always be apart of my life, but i fear for my kids and there
"right to bear arms!!"

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when the govenment comes for you weapons, give them the ammo first.
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As far as I'm concerned, the only smart part of a gun is the brain behind the triger. :)

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Glocks may come, and Glocks may go, but WALTHERS are FOREVER!!!


Off my meds (quit smoking), armed to the teeth, and loose on an unsuspecting society!!!
 
I agree with you den,and it just goes to show that most of the people spouting off about these things, really don't have the brains the good Lord gave them. Don't know the first thing they are talking about :(
If you guys haven't, take a look at Berettas home page and see what they have to say about Smart Gun Technology. I like it and they don't beat around the bush :)
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We preserve our freedoms by using four boxes: soap,ballot,jury, and cartridge.
Anonymous

[This message has been edited by loknload (edited March 06, 2000).]
 
I have noticed the Beretta stand against smart guns. I give them props for this but with Komadar Klinton in charge Beretta might be up aginst a big wall.

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when the govenment comes for you weapons, give them the ammo first.
AOL IM name: heathersman40
 
We had a discussion on smart guns in class on Saturday. Our instructor asked some good questions.
1. Will they work in cold or hot/humid weather extremes?
2. Imagine if they failed what the gun manufacturers law suits would be like.
3. 100 years from now or even 50 or 25, would we be able to get them fixed or get parts for them?
Very good questions I deduct. So far nobody has an answer to them. Shame on them.
 
I just had a thought...Just think, that little .22LR pistol that many have but few shoot, will now be a "pre-ban" and worth one heck of a lot more than we paid for it.
Also, will all LE guns have to be "smart"? I get so tired of the guvmnt saying that I'm not allowed to own something becuase I'm only a "normal" citizen. (My wife would probably disagree with the "normal" part).
Smart guns will get more innocents killed.
I believe LE will have a smart gun disabling device/transmitter in near future, if not already. Soon, another law passed saying that all smart-guns will have to be able to be disabled with said device.

Just my rambling thoughts,
Bill
 
Once again we (the gun owners) are applying LOGIC to what is, at its most basic level, an EMOTIONAL issue.

The people who say these things ("guns are bad", "...for the children...", "...smart guns...", etc.) are sheep, and logic will not sway them.

Join the NRA.

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"All my ammo is factory ammo"
 
Amen to the above :)
Total Gumpism "Stupid is as Stupid does" :)


Happy Shooting :)

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We preserve our freedoms by using four boxes: soap,ballot,jury, and cartridge.
Anonymous
 
Just think, the criminals are going to be some of the first people to figure out how to "jam" the supposedly fool proof smart gun. The first victims of this will probably be cops. Unfortunately, good people will have to die in order to kill the smart-gun idea.

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The first step is registration, the second step is confiscation, the final step is subjugation.
 
DEFENSES TO PRODUCT LIABILITY

Misuse of the product

Sometimes, injury results when a product is misused. If the [victim] brings a product liability action, the defendant [seller/manufacturer] may be able to assert the misuse as a defense. Whether the defense is effective depends on whether the misuse was foreseeable. The seller is relieved of product liability if the plantiff has abnormally misused the product--that is, there has been an unforeseeable misuse of the product. However, the [seller/manufacturer] is liable if there has been a foreseeable misuse of the product. This reasoning is intended to provide an incentive for manufacturers to design and manufacture safer products.

Misuse

A defense that relieves a seller/manufacturer of product liability if the user abnormally misused the product. Products must be designed to protect against foreseeable misuse.


I really hate to say it, but isn't "smart gun technology" following the "letter of the law"? Not that the law is necessarily right.

Please see my post "Firearms Manufacturers and Liability". This thread popped in right below mine as I posted it. Guess I could have posted here instead of starting a new topic :o
 
Maybe that's exactly what "smart gun" technology is intended to do. Maybe the anti-gun crowd is pushing smart-gun technology because they know it will fail at a higher percentage than current firearm technology. This will result in a wave of lawsuits from people claiming that the weapon was at fault at a critical moment (trying to defend themselves) thus leading to the bankrupcy of the firearms industry. Hell either way, they get you. Limbaugh said it today, freedom will not work in a society that has no morals. No laws could have prevented that Michigan shooting of a 6 yr old.

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The first step is registration, the second step is confiscation, the final step is subjugation.
 
I'm starting to get the feeling that this smart gun business may actually work out to our advantage in the end.
While several companies are doing research in that direction, there is one aspect of development, aside from the technological problems, that no one seems to be addressing.
Colt, in particular, has stated many times that for smart gun technology to become reality, they must be granted protection from liability in the event of product failure.
Now that is going to be a neat trick!
The manufacturers may come up with some interesting gizmos in the next few years, but I don't believe that we're ever going to see these things on the shelves of our local gun shops unless the manufacturers get that protection.
This is like the government mandating that Ford build Pintos with exploding gas tanks!
Even if you can get such a measure passed in legislation, I don't think the courts will let it stand.
Once this paradox becomes obvious, I think that selling smart gun technology is going to get a lot more difficult!
 
Smart Gun, talk about an oxymoron, A gun isn't any smarter than the person pulling the trigger.

Maybe the talk should be Idiot proof gun.
 
Remember, smart gun technology is a Trojan horse -- wherein the defects
which are not currently inherent to guns, and never have been found to
exist in court, will be designed in -- and the manufacturers will be sued
into oblivion.

We have to shout this from the rooftops and in the ear of every manufacturer who will listen. They are weaving their own rope.

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Gun Control: The proposition that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty hose, is more acceptable than allowing that same woman to defend herself with a firearm.
 
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