how are skeet guns holding their value? what should one expect when you have alot of custom work done to a gun and extras included when trying to sell it. Everyone knows the blue book values, but when you add sub-gauge tubes, case, trigger work, combs, and adjustable pads, how much value do you add the gun? Or do you lose value because the gun might thought to be overused?
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skeet gun values?
- Thread starter mwar410
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oneounceload
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What kind of gun? Why did you spend all the money for extras to sell it? Most folks I know that shoot skeet (and ZIPPY13 can certainly correct me) get that work done and then proceed to put 500,000 rounds though the guns and more. By then you have to look at rebuilds and maintenance.
You could look on the various auction sites and find closed auctions with your gun and extra listed. Personally, I prefer Guns International as they are NOT an auction site, just a selling site with reputable sellers and many higher-end guns
You could look on the various auction sites and find closed auctions with your gun and extra listed. Personally, I prefer Guns International as they are NOT an auction site, just a selling site with reputable sellers and many higher-end guns
As my friend, oneounceload, astutely observed, why would you want to sell your comp Skeet gun? You put a lot of time and effort into getting it just like you want it. Usually the only comp gun you'd sell is a mid-grade one when you move up to a higher grade unit. But, many folks keep that gun as a back-up or loaner. Of course, when a new model is released, like the K-80 or the Kolar there are some folks who'll sell off their old guns to get the latest offering. They hope the new gun will shoot higher scores. These are the folks who's comp guns are often unaltered from the factory's offering, and they may trade them in when changing guns.
Put yourself in the buyers position, what's he looking for in a used Skeet gun? The typically answer is, he's looking for a bargain in a gun that has a lot of life remaining. Don't expect to get full value from a tube set. Smaller tidily-bits, like trigger jobs and upgraded sight beads will probably add little to nothing to the value of the gun.
An exception to the rule is the shooter who's looking for a variety that's been discontinued. Remington no longer makes Skeet grade 1100s, the Beretta auto-loaders captured their market. But, there's probably someone out there who wants an 1100 Skeet, and he may be willing to pay a little extra to get one.
When individualizing a comp gun, make sure you don't do any bizarre mods that would preclude anyone else wanting it. I'm thinking of one shooter who liked his butt plate significantly canted. He didn't have an adjustable butt plate installed on his new K-80. No, he had a JS Air Cushion stock fabricated with the twist built-in. With that bizarre twist, a buyer is going to deduct the price of a new stock from his offer. However, a conventional JS Air Cushion would be a premium to most buyers.
With higher grade guns, the price may vary significantly from gun to gun. Two otherwise equal guns, that had the same original price, may get totally different offers because of the wood. We've all seen shotguns that have have much nicer, or poor looking wood than what's average for that model.
Sometimes a seller is "motivated" and a gun is just too good to be true. I picked up a un-shot P-gun that had been significantly upgraded by a LGS (gorgeous new wood, custom engraving, super-blue, Tula chokes, custom tube set, and gold plated internal parts). The LGS owner needed quick cash and I got the gun for less that the price of the new gun and tubes. My buddy, who shots the same number P-gun stock as I do, went with me to check out the gun. He put it to his shoulder and said, "I sure hope you buy it. Because if you don't, then I gotta, and I don't have the money right now." I've been offered $5K more than I paid for it. Hopefully you won't find yourself in that seller's position and be required to sell your gun at a significant loss.
Another factor is the economy in general. With unemployment at virtually 10% and an unstable market, this is not the best time to be selling a comp gun.
Put yourself in the buyers position, what's he looking for in a used Skeet gun? The typically answer is, he's looking for a bargain in a gun that has a lot of life remaining. Don't expect to get full value from a tube set. Smaller tidily-bits, like trigger jobs and upgraded sight beads will probably add little to nothing to the value of the gun.
An exception to the rule is the shooter who's looking for a variety that's been discontinued. Remington no longer makes Skeet grade 1100s, the Beretta auto-loaders captured their market. But, there's probably someone out there who wants an 1100 Skeet, and he may be willing to pay a little extra to get one.
When individualizing a comp gun, make sure you don't do any bizarre mods that would preclude anyone else wanting it. I'm thinking of one shooter who liked his butt plate significantly canted. He didn't have an adjustable butt plate installed on his new K-80. No, he had a JS Air Cushion stock fabricated with the twist built-in. With that bizarre twist, a buyer is going to deduct the price of a new stock from his offer. However, a conventional JS Air Cushion would be a premium to most buyers.
With higher grade guns, the price may vary significantly from gun to gun. Two otherwise equal guns, that had the same original price, may get totally different offers because of the wood. We've all seen shotguns that have have much nicer, or poor looking wood than what's average for that model.
Sometimes a seller is "motivated" and a gun is just too good to be true. I picked up a un-shot P-gun that had been significantly upgraded by a LGS (gorgeous new wood, custom engraving, super-blue, Tula chokes, custom tube set, and gold plated internal parts). The LGS owner needed quick cash and I got the gun for less that the price of the new gun and tubes. My buddy, who shots the same number P-gun stock as I do, went with me to check out the gun. He put it to his shoulder and said, "I sure hope you buy it. Because if you don't, then I gotta, and I don't have the money right now." I've been offered $5K more than I paid for it. Hopefully you won't find yourself in that seller's position and be required to sell your gun at a significant loss.
Another factor is the economy in general. With unemployment at virtually 10% and an unstable market, this is not the best time to be selling a comp gun.
If you are doing those modifications to your competition gun ...and expecting it to be an investment ...and make money off the changes ....its the wrong approach.
I look at many things like that as being from an owner that really liked his gun, enjoyed it, took good care of it, etc ....so it makes it a good buy for me as a potential buyer / if there is a lot of life left in the gun. Will the seller expect to fully recover his expenses - no, he shouldn't.
I like guns / and I buy quite a few used guns ....and usually I buy based on value. Value for the life that is left in the gun, a gun that I can refinish and pass on to one of the kids or grandkids ....
For my own guns / I make changes, improvements for my own satisfaction and use - not as an investment. If the guns goes up in value / its because over time that gun has become more expensive new - so it carries the used value of my gun with it. This isn't unique to Skeet guns - its the same for Sporting Clays or Trap guns too ...or any field gun for that matter ...and as often discussed here - personally, I shoot the same gun for Skeet, Sporting and in the field hunting birds ( Browning XS Skeet models, with adj combs ) ...and I love shooting them every time I touch them - and could care less if they go up or down in value long term.
They're just "my guns" ...lots of good times, great memories - with great friends and family ...
I look at many things like that as being from an owner that really liked his gun, enjoyed it, took good care of it, etc ....so it makes it a good buy for me as a potential buyer / if there is a lot of life left in the gun. Will the seller expect to fully recover his expenses - no, he shouldn't.
I like guns / and I buy quite a few used guns ....and usually I buy based on value. Value for the life that is left in the gun, a gun that I can refinish and pass on to one of the kids or grandkids ....
For my own guns / I make changes, improvements for my own satisfaction and use - not as an investment. If the guns goes up in value / its because over time that gun has become more expensive new - so it carries the used value of my gun with it. This isn't unique to Skeet guns - its the same for Sporting Clays or Trap guns too ...or any field gun for that matter ...and as often discussed here - personally, I shoot the same gun for Skeet, Sporting and in the field hunting birds ( Browning XS Skeet models, with adj combs ) ...and I love shooting them every time I touch them - and could care less if they go up or down in value long term.
They're just "my guns" ...lots of good times, great memories - with great friends and family ...
[what should one expect when you have alot of custom work done to a gun and extras included when trying to sell it.]
"CUSTOM" means just that, cutom-made to the buyer/customizer's taste - and not necessarily the taste of another prospective buyer.
Maximum $$$ are usually gotten in such a situation via returning the gun as much as possible to issue condition, and selling off the "extras" separately.
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"CUSTOM" means just that, cutom-made to the buyer/customizer's taste - and not necessarily the taste of another prospective buyer.
Maximum $$$ are usually gotten in such a situation via returning the gun as much as possible to issue condition, and selling off the "extras" separately.
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I have a few skeet guns, and I'm not shooting comps anymore. so the question is you have a base value for the gun, how much would you add for the tubes and case. or do they have no value? I was assuming that the trigger job would just be a selling point, no value. Having a fully adjustable comb should have some value. adjustable butt plate would be another selling point.
It's a 682 gold. mid-level gun and If I were to shoot again, I would be upgrading anyway.
It's a 682 gold. mid-level gun and If I were to shoot again, I would be upgrading anyway.
oneounceload
Moderator
The tube set will have value, certainly - especially if you have the extras (hammer, case, etc) - they won't be worth what you bought them for. I would look at closed sales and try to sell them at your local gun club
mwar410,
Some would argue that the Beretta 682 is the most successful competition gun ever created. I don't have any 682 Skeet guns, but I bought a 682x Combo trap gun almost 20-years ago. I had an adjustable comb Shockmaster air unit installed, and shot it in ATA for a year. I got a deal on the gun from Paxton Arms and on the stock work from G-squared. I have less than $2,800 in the set-up. The present Beretta offering is the 682 Gold E Trap combo listed at $4,600 and the Shockmaster basic installation is now $945. My "custom" 682x is in 99+% condition, how would you put a price on it?
A gun's worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. If I wanted to sell the 682x, I'd start with the pro shops to see how comparable guns were priced. I'd set a price below the pro shop's and post an ad in the club's newsletter and on the bulletin board. I'd take it to area trap shoots and put it in the for sale rack. I'd ask around to see who were the latest new shooters to be bitten by the trap bug. Hopefully I'd find one of them toting a nice pump gun and wearing a fresh mouse on his cheek. If I could get him to give the 682x a try, he'd not want to go back to the pump. Then I'd drop the price a pinch, and he'd be sold -- and, he'd probably "give me" his pump gun in the process.
Some would argue that the Beretta 682 is the most successful competition gun ever created. I don't have any 682 Skeet guns, but I bought a 682x Combo trap gun almost 20-years ago. I had an adjustable comb Shockmaster air unit installed, and shot it in ATA for a year. I got a deal on the gun from Paxton Arms and on the stock work from G-squared. I have less than $2,800 in the set-up. The present Beretta offering is the 682 Gold E Trap combo listed at $4,600 and the Shockmaster basic installation is now $945. My "custom" 682x is in 99+% condition, how would you put a price on it?
A gun's worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. If I wanted to sell the 682x, I'd start with the pro shops to see how comparable guns were priced. I'd set a price below the pro shop's and post an ad in the club's newsletter and on the bulletin board. I'd take it to area trap shoots and put it in the for sale rack. I'd ask around to see who were the latest new shooters to be bitten by the trap bug. Hopefully I'd find one of them toting a nice pump gun and wearing a fresh mouse on his cheek. If I could get him to give the 682x a try, he'd not want to go back to the pump. Then I'd drop the price a pinch, and he'd be sold -- and, he'd probably "give me" his pump gun in the process.