Sitting Position = "Combat Training"?

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B. Lahey

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So I went to the Kingsbury DNR (Northern Indiana) range today, and there was a new RO working. Nice guy, but when I finished checking my zero from the bench and started shooting from positions, he stopped me.

Apparently offhand is no problem, he let me do that, but when I switched to sitting he told me that it was a "military technique" that is banned because there is no "combat training" allowed.

I told him it was a competition position, but he was unpersuaded. The old RO never gave me any problems.

Anyone heard of this before?
 
I've heard a lot of weird things from people who shoot at public ranges. Seems that anything other than bullseye type slow fire is banned. Glad I have the range that I do to shoot at. As long as you do, whatever it is your doing, safely they have no issues.
 
That guy is weird ! Here the basic deer hunting is sitting and waiting for a deer .In the many years of deer hunting only rarely have I shot with anything other than a sitting position.
 
Sitting position is one of the approved positions for 3-position NRA and Olympic rifle shooting. The others are standing (offhand) and prone. They even teach it to Boy Scouts. Is this guy serious??? Call the range and discuss it with the man's manager, he is out of line.
 
Sitting is a military technique? Never heard that one before. It’s a good Rifleman technique, that I know.

Public gun ranges can have some strange rules, and they seem to change as often as the RO changes. I shoot, and used to compete in Bullseye Pistol. Rapid fire is 5 shots in 10 seconds. I was shooting that cadence at a public range a few weeks ago. RO never said a word to me. At noon they switched RO’s. The new one chewed my butt for it. I never said a word, just went back to slow fire, one shot a minute.
 
This range guy is really out of line! You should have asked him where he learned to combat shoot while sitting on his ___(you fill in the blank):mad:
Wow what a lack of common sense society we have become!
 
I would call who ever is in charge and file a complaint. You were doing nothing wrong... personally if he tried to stop me I would have kept do it... but im an idiot.:D
 
No sitting down? The only people that do "military shooting" while sitting down are behind a belt fed.

5 shots in 10 seconds is rapid fire?

I'd hate to see what they thought of my idea of rapid fire.

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Scorch- 3 position is prone, kneeling, and offhand. Sitting is unique to NRA 4 position matches. Not that it matters, but I'm a dork like that. I shot enough of both to learn to love sitting, and sort of disliked giving up my favorite stage because it wasn't good enough for Olympic Fritz and his sour band of lime green leather suit wearing comrades. :D
 
Ranges often have strange rules that were implemented for some reason that no one remembers any longer, and then they get misinterpreted.

Does he regard prone and kneeling as 'combat training' as well?

I'd contact the DNR for a clarification. If they're hosting any sort of organized rifle activity, they've probably got people shooting in 'combat training' positions.
 
Sitting is a military technique?
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Army SDM school teaches sitting positions.

However, it's not exclusive and that does not make the RO right.
I would try to talk to him off the range to find out why sitting is considered a combat position but not hunting or match. Maybe he will listen to you. and if he does not then bring it up to the higher up.
 
I have found that sitting is the most effective hunting position. With a tight sling I have high confidence for 400 yard shooting, and if necessary for 500 yards. It makes 300 yard shots a 'piece of cake."

Of course terrain and your adrenalin rush do make things more difficult.;)

That range guy just showed his great ignorance of rifle shooting. But what else is new??:confused:

Jerry
 
funny, when the navy does M16 quals we shoot prone, kneeling and standing but not sitting. the only time I was taught sitting was hunters ed... I think he was just a dumbtard new RO that is exorcising his power a bit too much
 
I was once taught a position that we called Asian prone, or rice patty prone, or the Asian squat, among other terms depending on the instructor. I bet your RO would squat if you tried to use that one, too.

I'd check with the range manager and get this guy straightened out.
 
Boy Scouts

Rifle shooting merit badge does not require shooting from a sitting position. Benchrest or supported prone are the two options.

At Fort Dix in 1968 we were taught sitting and that became a favorite position. It is great for accuracy but lousy in combat because you are sticking your head up much too high. With stretched logic it may be a "military" position but so is prone and others. Silly range officer.
 
That just makes me so much more pleased to have my own range at which I can do as I damn well please, shoot as fast or slow as I wish, and not be forced to follow some horse pucky rules that no one understands the logic of.
 
As a police firearms instructor I simply would have asked him which positions were not "combat" positions. Then I would have attacked him from each and finished off by illustrating how "sitting" is the worse position from which to "combat" anybody from!
 
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