Sisters! Beware the NRA

dZ

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Sisters! Beware the NRA http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=819
by Leroy Pyle

It has been immensely satisfying these last few weeks to view the successes of the SAS-AIM ladies as they persisted in
busting through the media bias to force their message onto the major networks. Every one of the Sisters appearing across
the nation in opposition of the mmm were such a refreshing picture of confidence and truth for those who support the
Constitution and individual rights. The Sisters made themselves a necessary part of any report on the mmm by their
frankness that became a magnet for continuing interviews. It was impossible to ignore the Sisters' three R's; Respect,
Responsibilities, and Rights.

It was a pleasure to join our own protest rally here in Chicago and watch the local Sisters strut their stuff. They stood up to
the taunts of some very vicious "mmmoms", wooed the police officers who found it necessary to form a protective line
against those "mmmoms", and supplied our side with a variety of clever and imaginative signage. They whooped it up,
cheered the crowd with inspiring speeches, and conducted a very productive counter-demonstration.

The Sisters could not be ignored these last few weeks. It was a delight to watch as, one after another, the "news" casters
supplemented their biased reporting of the mmm with Sisters interviews and then corrections to their reports of the
"grassroots" mmm organizers until it became a standard to use a disclaimer whenever the mmm was mentioned. As difficult
as it must have been for the media to admit, Donna Dees-Thomas went from simple homey mom to the friend of Hillary
Clinton temporarily hired away from CBS network management, that she is. The non-profit, spurred by offended senses,
grassroots organization became the professionally produced stage show that it was, intended for marketing by media hype,
organized and coordinated by high powered Democratic sympathizers and notable gun-phobia entertainers led by Rosie,
herself. What a surprise that all this just came together! But the truth was told, thanks to the Sisters and their many
internet activist friends.

And the Sisters' success was finally confirmed when the NRA joined in. They didn't mention the Sisters, of course, but finally
entered the fray once the Sisters had planned the battle, organized the troops, funded the event, and attracted the media.
Darn nice of them, don't you think! Neither LaPierre nor Heston mentioned the Sisters efforts when the media sought them
out to speak on the pending mmm activities in D.C. Instead, they went public with commercials lauding their famous Eddie
Eagle program.

By now, I'm guessing NRA reps have met with leaders of SAS-AIM for some wining and dining. I hope that was taken
advantage of, as it is well deserved. Individual efforts will certainly be recognized at this year's annual meetings of the
membership. As a Benefactor Member of the NRA, myself, I am sure SAS-AIM representatives will be recommended for a
variety of the annual awards presented by the NRA to individuals and organizations with notable performances.

Why, then, the warning? As the NRA envelopes your cause, don't let them take your guns! Your strong, no-compromise
stand on firearms ownership is a potent and unifying force. The very real down-to-earth graphics presented on your web site
are dynamite.

DON"T LET THE NRA TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS!

Consider the NRA Eddie Eagle program. As excellent as it is, guns are not allowed. Eddie cannot be used at a firing range.
No firearms are allowed in a demonstration. I have no problem with that, as the reasoning is valid. But where are the guns?

Take a good look at another woman's program sponsored by the NRA. "Refuse To Be A Victim" touts the many ways a
woman can avoid criminal attack, but firearms are not a part of the program, and the outline explains that firearms
ownership is not recommended. Again, what happened to the guns?

Much to the chagrin of my Second Amendment and Libertarian Friends, I supported NRA's CrimeStrike Program as an
effective way to put the face of evil on the criminal rather than the firearm. But where were the guns in that NRA program?

NRA firearms instructors are aware that the latest incarnation of the Personal Protection Pistol training prohibits the use of
humanoid targets! Realistic targets are not politically correct.

Being politically correct has its place. I fully support each and every one of the programs mentioned. I am an active NRA
Counselor/Instructor and utilize the NRA materials quite often. I have taken the Eddie Eagle mascot to parades and
presentations and am convinced that Eddie Eagle should be in every elementary school in these United States. As a career
police officer, I used that training and experience to train many thousands of women in a variety of personal protection
techniques. I recommend the "Refuse to be a Victim" program, as well as the similar programs presented by every police
agency in the country, for any woman concerned about victimization.

But where are the guns? Where is the straight talk. The winning talk? The talk that will take back our rights? These
ad-agency created programs are poll-driven, feel-good operations, intended to attract and enlarge the membership from a
politically correct "middle America". That same media-led "middle America" that has given away our Second Amendment
Rights for too many years.

I much prefer a dedicated organization of 100,000 Proud Patriots with the Sisters' spirit, to one of 3,000,000 whose record is
one of dismal, incremental losses, year after year.

And the final question: What have the politically correct programs of the NRA done for your Firearms Rights over the past
ten years? [Gun Free Schools with easily-targeted students, high cap magazine bans, "A" Grades for Gun Grabbers, Zero
Tolerance Enforcement for Unconstitutional Gun Laws backed by members' funds, et cetera.]

Sisters, your program is inspiring. It is unbeatable because you speak the truth. You talk the talk, and walk the walk. The
firearms community respects that. We need that. Take all the well deserved praise the NRA is sure to give. Accept their
invitations to sit on their committees, join in their festivities, accept their applause. You deserve that and more.

Please, ladies, maintain your independence and don't let the NRA take away your guns!
 
If the NRA had openly backed the SAS-AIM they would have been less effective. They would no longer have been viewed by the media as a grass roots effort, but as an arm of the evil NRA. The Media would have persecuted them as they continuously do the NRA. It is easy to villainies the NRA, however it is much harder to villainies polite sisters and moms.

The best thing that happened out of the SAS-AIM effort was to get a pro-gun group (besides the NRA) in the national spotlight.
 
The NRA has it's place. It is the major player on the pro-RKBA field.

There are other organizations, and they are important. As cdb mentioned, it is nice to see another pro-Second Amendment organization receive prominent mention.
 
dZ -

Great post. I'm so glad you were at a SAS counter-demontration. I agree with everything you said. I also agree with cdb, though. Some people stop listening or are more skeptical of information from the NRA than from sources not connected.

One thing that has been on my mind lately, that came to mind again as I read your post: Sometimes I get a feeling that the gun debate suffers from sexism. I don't have fully formed opinions on this topic yet, and I am not a rabid feminist...but...for example...how many of you male NRA members out there have a wife or girlfriend who are pro gun, maybe even non-reluctant shooters, yet they themselves are not members? ...Like somehow they are "covered" under your membership.

How many of your wives/girlfriends/daughters read and post here?

How do you encourage your wives/girlfriends/daughters to be politically active? Do you have the same conversations with them that you have here?

At least right now, women seem to be leading the dialogue. And, we need women to continue to talk to women about these issues... and take other women shooting.

That cute thing votes. And maybe not the way you do.

I got a little off track...but am interested in input.

Susan
 
Susan, my wife is pro-gun now but only because of me exposing her to the truth about guns and the BS statistics. I always have conversations with her on what is important to me and why I feel the way I do about our RKBA. And I take her input and her ideas on the same issues. I don't even try to get her to think, vote or talk like me, but she has done it naturally from hearing both sides of the issue. Fortunately she has enough sense to hear the garbage the antis have to say and compare it to the actual facts. They never line up. If it had not been for me she would still be riding the fence or an anti. She never grew up around guns but would never have learned anything but what the biased media has to put out, so she probably would hate guns. Just last week she bought her first handgun and after she watched the NRA ad this weekend she decided to join them.

Guys, Susan brings up a very good point here. You have to include your wife, girlfriend, Mom, Grandmotherand sisters in these debates because they may be our last hope. Most women are of course very protective of children and if all they hear is rosie's ideas and the media's crap about polls and statistics, they will more than likely become an anti and be very hard to bring back to reality. Just think we could probably almost double our numbers if we all get the women as involved as some of us men are.
 
Welcome, Susan!

You'll find that the guys here (at least most of 'em ;) ) are not sexist. They support women in their political views, their shooting sports, and their right to carry for self-defense. Many of us are women (though, you can't always tell by our names). On the internet, I am often mistaken as being male. But, as one friend here once pointed out, most women don't voluntarily choose a name with "dog" in it. :D If a woman is politically knowledgable, and a shooter, she should be able to stand up for herself and say "I want to join a pro-gun group too!"

Refering to the article ... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Take a good look at another woman's program sponsored by the NRA. "Refuse To Be A Victim" touts the many ways a
woman can avoid criminal attack, but firearms are not a part of the program, and the outline explains that firearms
ownership is not recommended. Again, what happened to the guns?[/quote] I don't understand where the author gets this from. I hosted a RTBAV class in February. The instructor explained the different ways to protect yourself, but made it clear in the end that the BEST way to handle a physical attack was with a firearm. He used RTBAV as a sort of introductory class for those women who weren't quite ready for the idea of a firearm. After getting the idea across that the best protection for most people is to be armed, he then introduced his Personal Protection class, which does involve firearms. I have yet to hear that any RTBAV instructor said firearms were a "no-no".

I don't always agree with the NRA, but right now they are the biggest lobby we have. We need to stick together.




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Refuse to be a "helpless" victim.
Knowing Your Rights WAGC in Indiana
 
Thanks for the welcome, Blueyedog.

I agree totally with you on the Refuse to be a Victim and Personal Protection courses -- from personal experience.

I had no experience with guns -- pro or anti -- until I was involved with a man who is a shooter. I took these classes because I'm too feisty to learn much from someone I'm involved with and needed an "impartial" third party! :) I was completely impressed that these classes sponsored by the "big bad NRA" were not dominated immediately with discussions about guns as the only means of increasing your personal safety, and therefore I put more credibility in the classes and was more open to the idea of guns. Very roundabout logic, I know.

And...even though the relationship didn't last, I still love shooting! (Even though I didn't get the Browning HP! :))

Also, with regard to the issues about sexism. I find the men on these boards in particular to be very gentlemanly, intelligent and studious. And...I realize I am talking about very subtle shadings. I know we are "big girls" and should be able to decide for ourselves to join a pro second-amendment group...but until someone else brought it to my attention, I never even considered that most wives of members were probably not themselves members of the NRA. I was struck by that.

In general (dangerous to generalize, I know), I have found that men who shoot are somewhat chivalrous and tend to feel like they need to do the primary protecting. I would just encourage men to not only support women in their decision to be more active -- but to pro-actively encourage it. AND to consciously make an effort to encourage open dialogue and independent thinking and action on these issues. (How about a membership as a present...along with some jewelry, of course! :D)

I know there are many men who do, and I applaud that -- but there are also many who are SO negative toward ANY opinion that doesn't exactly match up with theirs. I have gotten in many a conversation sincerely seeking a discussion and have been made to feel stupid. Let's not discourage our own.

Forgive me for rambling...
 
I made a post about a month ago questioning why the NRA wasn't supporting SAS. I also e-mailed the NRA with the same question. The NRA response and also from some other TFLers was that NRA support would have a negative impact, as others here have pointed out. The SAS Web site says the same basic thing.
I agree with that and feel that a 'woman' to 'mom' counter march was the most effective strategy.

I don't think the NRA is perfect, but it is the most powerful lobbying group we have. I hope that SAS grows and will continue to support them.

Although my wife has been shooting with me, she is not a big gun fan. I have explained some of the facts about gun statistics to her and she is now pro-gun (still doesn't like to shoot). She also points out the other side's feelings, which helps me when I get into a rant mode. It also helps me formulate better arguments.

There is certainly room for both organizations.
 
Mike, how did you get your wife to even a middle-of-the-road position? My wife vacillates between pro and anti so often it's like Jekyll and Hyde. Sometimes I think it's a reaction to my obsession with the RKBA isse.

I do agree, though, with others who say that
the NRA shouldn't have been involved with SAS. The Sisters, if they are going to be able to effectively counter the Morons, have to be seen as grassroots and speaking for themselves on an issue close to their hearts.
Any NRA affiliation would stop the cameras.

Dick
 
Monkeyleg;

My wife used to run the surveys unit for a major publisher. Consequently, she understands statistics. She always questions my numbers and sources. Once I can cite a reliable source and show her the facts she 'sees the light'. If only the Million Mommies and the other antis were as logical.
 
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