Saw a few today at teh funstore with a single bar rear sight. Ive never shot one or really seen any until today. whats the advantage to these? Ive only fired 3 dot (which I like) GI style iron only (didn't like) and some white outline/truglow revovler sigths. Never these. Whats your opinion?
Single bar rear sight question (and poll)
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Supposedly the human eye can align vertically faster then horizontally, as claimed by this sight company (http://www.heinie.com/seillustration.php), hence sights like the one you describe. I prefer three-dot however, probably just because that's what I'm used to.
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Just to confirm, is this the type you're talking about? (Not my photo, found on google)
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Just to confirm, is this the type you're talking about? (Not my photo, found on google)
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Dfariswheel
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The bar and dot was originally known as the "Von Stavenhagen" sight.
Many people like them better because they're simpler than a three dot, and all you have to align is two objects.
Also, it's possible under pressure to MIS-align three dots and get the front dot to the side of the two rear dots.
This is why some three dot luminous sights had a front that was a different color.
Bottom line, its all in what you prefer.
Many people like them better because they're simpler than a three dot, and all you have to align is two objects.
Also, it's possible under pressure to MIS-align three dots and get the front dot to the side of the two rear dots.
This is why some three dot luminous sights had a front that was a different color.
Bottom line, its all in what you prefer.
The SIG factory type like the above pic are fine, as long as you dont get anal about fixing the "gap" between the dot and the bar instead of just shooting with them. Same goes with the "Straight 8", or dot over dot type. For me, they drive me crazy, and my brain wants to fiddle with the gap and I tend to have my attention drawn to that rather than the target and shooting it.
I find the three dots to be quicker and easier to use, as you quickly get both horizontal and vertical alignment with no though or worry. When the gun rocks into presentation, you get a nice, even row of dots, and the bullet goes where the middle one is sitting. Even when you are coming up, or the gun is just below your line of sight, the dots form a small triangle that your brain picks up and they point the way directly to the target.
I've been using the three dots since they first came out and before they were even lit, and have never had any troubles with misaligning the dots. You actually have to work at doing it, and it doesnt look or feel right when you do.
I find the three dots to be quicker and easier to use, as you quickly get both horizontal and vertical alignment with no though or worry. When the gun rocks into presentation, you get a nice, even row of dots, and the bullet goes where the middle one is sitting. Even when you are coming up, or the gun is just below your line of sight, the dots form a small triangle that your brain picks up and they point the way directly to the target.
I've been using the three dots since they first came out and before they were even lit, and have never had any troubles with misaligning the dots. You actually have to work at doing it, and it doesnt look or feel right when you do.
Once you have horizontal alignment, you have vertical alignment. The bullet goes to where the center dot in the row sits.
You actually get better vertical alignment with the three dots over the two dot, or dot bar type, because you dont have to worry about the "gap". The three dots work like a normal sight picture, one your already conditioned to use.
You actually get better vertical alignment with the three dots over the two dot, or dot bar type, because you dont have to worry about the "gap". The three dots work like a normal sight picture, one your already conditioned to use.
My Sig 229 has the "Von Stavenhagen" sight. I hated it at first simply because I was used to having the 3-dot on my other guns. After about 2 trips to the range it started to grow on me. I felt like target aquisition was faster and I was a bit more accurate.
I like it even more now that I've learned it's also know as the "Von Stavenhagen" sight.
I like it even more now that I've learned it's also know as the "Von Stavenhagen" sight.
This question is something that your not going to get a good answer from I dont think.
Depending on what you used as you leaned to shoot, that is what your going to tend to like best.
Me, I shoot the same with either 3 dots or the 2 bars. In my mind its a simple concept either way.. but everyones different. You prefer what you prefer I guess. lol
Depending on what you used as you leaned to shoot, that is what your going to tend to like best.
Me, I shoot the same with either 3 dots or the 2 bars. In my mind its a simple concept either way.. but everyones different. You prefer what you prefer I guess. lol
Im so new to shooting that I dont really have any habits. I like 3 dots (tried siglite and novaks) , but the only other sights ive tried on a semi are gi style on a 1911 which i hated, and adjustable target with a truglow i liked too. Just gotta try some out I think. One gun i plan to buy sometime is a p220 st, and many come with the bar/dot.