I've had a few DA/SA 9mm's, but would like to find a decent one that is strictly single action. The ones I have found were cheap ones I wasn't impressed with. I can't stand DAO and don't like the extra movement of the trigger when firing a DA/SA in single action mode. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good SA 9mm or maybe a DA/SA that "feels" like a single action? How good are the 1911's chambered in 9mm and where can they be found?
single action 9mm's
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A good quality Browning Hi Power or Browning Hi Power clone is what I would recommend I owned an FEG 9hp which is a browning clone and really enjoyed shooting it although I felt that the thumb safeties werea bit too small to be properly manipulated under high stress situation. Cylinder and Slide make fine aftermarket safties though.
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"what gives a government that arms the whole world the right to disarm it's own citizens?"
One of the best things about the BHP is that Browning has pretty much held the line on quality. So, unlike the products of some manufacturers, a BHP made a year ago is as good if not better than one made ten or twenty years ago. The exception is the trigger, which IMHO used to be made noticeably smoother.
As far as 9mm 1911s are concerned, I have several, all Colts, made within the last twenty years. They're the same quality as Colt's .45 1911s, which means they're good guns overall, but may lack attention to certain details. For instance, half of mine came from the factory with inadequate extractor tension, so they failed to extract or stovepiped from time to time. This was an easy fix. OTOH I owned a 9mm Combat Commander, made around 1980, that wouldn't shoot two rounds without jamming. I got rid of it out of sheer frustration, but now wish I hadn't, because it could probably have been made to work just fine.
Several years ago, Colt's made a run of 1991A1s in 9mm (said to be for the government of Japan). An overrun of these was sold on the civilian market. They were very good basic pistols, and I recommend them if they can still be found for sale anywhere.
I've heard that other 1911 makers (Springfield Armory?) also make 9mm 1911s. But I have no experience with them.
I think most folks would agree that a 9mm 1911 is easier to shoot than a .45 1911, at least as far as recoil is concerned.
HTH.
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As far as 9mm 1911s are concerned, I have several, all Colts, made within the last twenty years. They're the same quality as Colt's .45 1911s, which means they're good guns overall, but may lack attention to certain details. For instance, half of mine came from the factory with inadequate extractor tension, so they failed to extract or stovepiped from time to time. This was an easy fix. OTOH I owned a 9mm Combat Commander, made around 1980, that wouldn't shoot two rounds without jamming. I got rid of it out of sheer frustration, but now wish I hadn't, because it could probably have been made to work just fine.
Several years ago, Colt's made a run of 1991A1s in 9mm (said to be for the government of Japan). An overrun of these was sold on the civilian market. They were very good basic pistols, and I recommend them if they can still be found for sale anywhere.
I've heard that other 1911 makers (Springfield Armory?) also make 9mm 1911s. But I have no experience with them.
I think most folks would agree that a 9mm 1911 is easier to shoot than a .45 1911, at least as far as recoil is concerned.
HTH.
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Right about now (or VERY soon) the CZ-75SA single action only should be in stores. Basically a SA match trigger group and over sized safety on a basic 75 to keep the price down to around $350. The SA trigger is supposed to feel better than the standard 75s when they`re used in SA mode and that`s pretty darn good already! Cheaper than a BHP, with a better out of the box trigger and just as or more accurate. Of course if you don`t mind sending a BHP to a good smith then the sky`s the limit. Marcus
Walt Sherrill
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If you can stand the price, check out the SIG P-210. Probably the finest production service pistol 9mm made. Single-action. Superbly accurate. Extremely durable.
A joy to shoot, too.
(The only problem with them is you can buy two or three BHPs for what they cost... Of course, they'll outshoot two or three BHPs, too... Mine came with a factory proof target showing a sub 1" group at 55 meters.)
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A joy to shoot, too.
(The only problem with them is you can buy two or three BHPs for what they cost... Of course, they'll outshoot two or three BHPs, too... Mine came with a factory proof target showing a sub 1" group at 55 meters.)
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Zach Vonler
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An HK P7 is a very nice SA 9mm. I doubt you'll find it cheap and unimpressive
I will go along with the Browning BHP. If I didn't my name wouldn't be Richard. There are some real sleepers out there that are single actions and you should be able to find used. I am thinking of the Star BM and the Llama Especial. Do not believe anyone that says that these two are junk. I own both of them and I don't purposely buy junk. The only compaint I have with the Llama is it will bite the web of your hand if you aren't careful. Regards, Richard.
I have a helwan cadet a Beretta 951 clone, It was awful at first but with some work shoots just fine and the price is below 200. Maybe an actual 951, Beretta quality and accuracy but without the cost of a 210 or BHP. I have 3 pistols a SA only, A DAO, and a SA/DA. I like the variety, diff caliber, diff sights, diff triggers, makes it more interesting than having a glock in all shapes and sizes.
Go with the Hi Power.
One of the most accurate and reliable 9mms ever made. At one time it was used by more law enforecement and military around the world than any other gun. And perhaps the most cloned gun ever build. You can't go wrong with the HP. Easy take down and maintain also.
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One of the most accurate and reliable 9mms ever made. At one time it was used by more law enforecement and military around the world than any other gun. And perhaps the most cloned gun ever build. You can't go wrong with the HP. Easy take down and maintain also.
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PreserveFreedom
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If you want something inexpensive, you may want a Llama Mini-max. They are actually called FireStorm now, so they may have changed the model's name. Alot of people don't like Llama or FireStorm, but I think very highly of mine. My best friend's favorite auto for carry is his 40S&W Mini-max. It's like a 1911 but in a smaller caliber and a slightly smaller frame.
Ed Brunner
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You can get the FEG HP Clone for $200. For my money it is the best $200 pistol on the market.
Like ArmySon I never liked the 9mm (until they started making Hydroshoks and I got the FEG) I resisted it for a long time but I love it.
If you get one, I doubt that you will regret it.
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Like ArmySon I never liked the 9mm (until they started making Hydroshoks and I got the FEG) I resisted it for a long time but I love it.
If you get one, I doubt that you will regret it.
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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."
Better days to be,
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sks:
Browning High Power is NOT "the most cloned gun ever."
Among rifles, that honor belongs to the Avtomat Kalashnikov.
Among pitols, it is the CZ-75 that has been copied/cloned the most throughout the world.
Within the US, they are obviously the AR-15 and the 1911A1.
Skorzeny
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Browning High Power is NOT "the most cloned gun ever."
Among rifles, that honor belongs to the Avtomat Kalashnikov.
Among pitols, it is the CZ-75 that has been copied/cloned the most throughout the world.
Within the US, they are obviously the AR-15 and the 1911A1.
Skorzeny
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For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence. Sun Tzu
Walt Sherrill
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2cats:
MTAA,
Can you give details concerning the 952? Have you a range report to offer?
If it's as good as the 945, then it's good.
Many thanks,
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A friend bought one of these recently, and he loves his. (He has expensive tastes in guns and has a number of good ones.)
I have a Model 52, and tried his 952. There is no comparison in the fit, finish, or trigger between the Model 52 and 952 -- the old one has it beat. The 952 trigger also seems not nearly as good as the 945.
His gun shoots very well, however.
For the money, I think I'd just get a good 1911 gunsmith to build me a 9mm 1911 clone. You can probably do that for less than $1000.
And then there's the new CZ-75 Single Action. I just sold my CZ-75 and upgraded to a CZ-85 Combat. If the trigger on the CZ-75 SA is as good as the DA/SA on the CZ-85, it may be the best deal available...
MTAA,
Can you give details concerning the 952? Have you a range report to offer?
If it's as good as the 945, then it's good.
Many thanks,
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A friend bought one of these recently, and he loves his. (He has expensive tastes in guns and has a number of good ones.)
I have a Model 52, and tried his 952. There is no comparison in the fit, finish, or trigger between the Model 52 and 952 -- the old one has it beat. The 952 trigger also seems not nearly as good as the 945.
His gun shoots very well, however.
For the money, I think I'd just get a good 1911 gunsmith to build me a 9mm 1911 clone. You can probably do that for less than $1000.
And then there's the new CZ-75 Single Action. I just sold my CZ-75 and upgraded to a CZ-85 Combat. If the trigger on the CZ-75 SA is as good as the DA/SA on the CZ-85, it may be the best deal available...
Country Boy
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My vote is for the Hi-Power. Although, I'm not sure where the debate is at as far as if they are still being produced. You get what you pay for, and with my BHP, I paid for accuracy and quality.