Simple 922r question

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Chip Saunders

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If I understand 922r (who does?) then if I bought a Saiga sporter (10 rd, no pistol grip, etc.) it would have been imported as a sporting gun, immune from restrictions as such, even though it is 100% Russian. Now, however, IF I were to replace ANY of the BATF's list of parts with other than the original (including the magazine) I would be in violation of 922r.....yes?

I realize IF I went on and replaced enough of the parts with US made to bring the remainder of Russian BATF parts to 10 or less, I would be ok. But just purchasing a 20 round mag for it would make me a deadly threat to our American way of life, apple pie, grandma, and all that......

Have I got this right?

:eek:Doh ! I put this in the wrong forum......sorry should be in semi's, etc.
 
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I honestly couldn't tell you if it even is limited to the parts on the list. I.E. there's probably no precedent out there to tell you if drilling/mounting a scope onto an importable AK constitutes a change sufficient to bring 922r into play. I always treat it as "you can keep it the way it was imported" and that's about it. Any change beyond what even a judge would call "inconsequential" could have ramifications.

But I'm not aware of a single charge of 922r violation being leveled against anyone outside far, far bigger criminal behavior (illegal machine guns, illegal transfers/prohibited persons, etc.) or a manufacturing concern.

If there have been any I'd love to hear it. What's funny, is that in order for them to find evidence of 922r, they pretty much have to blatantly violate your 4th amendment rights (do cops have the right to randomly disassemble your gun, car, or home without probable cause?), and even when they do, they'd be hard pressed to prove 'beyond a reasonable doubt' that the unmarked trigger you have did not originate in the US.

I by no means advocate breaking 922r, but history seems to have shown it is essentially unenforceable, and therefore not something to keep you up at night.

TCB
 
I have done more research Barn, since my post, and i think it would be no big deal. Looks like there are only 14 922r parts in the Saiga. Switching to a US magazine counts as 3. I could swap out the stock to make 4, but I like the Russian synthetic stock (its LONG). The top hand guard can be swapped and that would make 4 US parts with the required 10 only Russian parts left.

Being a mining professional I am no stranger to stupid federal regulations. For example we must have at least 1 headlight at each end of mobile equipment, but if we have more than 1 all must work. Naturally we have 4 or 6, but if one burns out and we have no bulb, we must remove the entire housing that needs a bulb for the truck to be legal. If it is there with a burned out bulb, it is a violation, but if it is not there at all, it is ok........:rolleyes:

Big Government......
 
I by no means advocate breaking 922r, but history seems to have shown it is essentially unenforceable, and therefore not something to keep you up at night.
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Thus entering into the murky waters of "civil disobedience."
 
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