Silver Bear?

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CaesarI

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My specific question relates to the newest products from the Rodina i.e. Russia.

http://www.floridaammotraders.com/ammo.html
http://www.selectfire.com/wwwboard/messages/2006.html
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/AIM_Pistol_Ammunition_2.html

Also at:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com

All list Silver Bear 145gr HP

The only site listing any velocity data is the Florida site. Which lists a velocity of a WHOPPING 1200fps.

Anybody ever heard of "Silver Bear" before? I did some searching online and found they made pellets (as in for air rifles). Apparently, they aren't top notch pellets...

The price is pretty darned low. $5.29 for 50. $100 per 1000.

Anyone done any testing, heard of the company before, have an address where I could get more information?

1200fps w/ a 145gr 9mm... despite critics claims is possible I think. I've heard of 1150fps 147gr maybe the Russians figure they can go to a higher pressure with steel cases? Or perhaps they have some magical powder? Or perhaps they like blowing themselves up...

I'd like to keep this discussion wound ballistics argument free if i could, we already debated hot 147's earlier.

-Morgan
 
I shot some Silver Bear 9mm out of my TZ99. It has a definately stouter recoil than 115gr stuff, but seemed to work fine in the pistol!
 
I can't comment on the 9x19 stuff, but I have shot the 9x18 Makarov ammo. It's 120gr JHP and it's definitely hotter than the typical 90/95 grain ammo normally encountered. +p loads at a minimum, maybe +p+. The recoil is stout, even for a Mak.

I asked this question in an earlier thread and was told that the ammo was junk and caused multiple jams. I haven't experienced jam one, and it is now my normal carry ammo in my Mak. I have to wonder if the negative comments are from the "I heard from my brother's sister-in-law's husband's cousin" crowd, if you catch my drift.

One thing I have noticed concerning this ammo. It seems to be very dirty. But, at $5.25/ box, I can live with this. I clean after every shooting session anyway.
 
Ditto on the 9Mak Silver Bear. I shot a box out of my Bulgie last week with no problem whatsoever using a mix of chinese and bulgie magazines. Groups were about the same size as with ball or Barnaul HPs (i.e. 3 - 4 inches at 50 feet).

My friend Bob Chick that runs RSC Wholesale said that one of his other customers chronied it at 950 FPS which would seem a bit hot but not scary.

Until i see some expansion tests with it i will stick to the Barnaul HPs in my Mak, but this stuff looks ok to me. Price sure is nice!
 
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