I was reading through some threads here, about gunshot inflicted hearing damage from bursting eardrums in home defensive shooting to destroying the hearing of hunting dogs. It just seems ridiculous to me that silencers and noise moderators are so tightly restricted in the U.S. Even a lot of the antigun european countries don't have these laws. Why do we have them here? The need to prevent actual deafness should easily be one of the most important, common sense, and logical needs for an item. Nobody would stand for a second if laws actually prohibited any other item from having their noise levels being brought down to a point where it doesn't cause physical damage to themselves. Opinions or thoughts?
Silencers and moderators on guns
- Thread starter razorburn
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gunslinger555
New member
when the nfa was passed silencers where looked down on like sawed off shotguns but they will never get rid of the restrictions on silencers because it would be political suicide
Rich Lucibella
Staff
Given the contradictions between noise level control laws in the workplace vs on the range and the easy solution to hearing loss among shooters, I simply have to believe there is some legal principle on which a challenge to this part of the NFA Act could be mounted.
If anyone can come up with it, I'd be most interested.
Rich
If anyone can come up with it, I'd be most interested.
Rich
steelheart
Moderator
Say AMEN, brothers and sisters!!
I have threatened for years to get ordained as a minister via the internet and start "The Church of the Suppressed Semiautomatic and Select Fire Rifle."
Services would consist of studying and reading the words of The Founders, as well as Biblical injunctions regarding self-defense and owning weaponry.
To become a member, you would have to (LEGALLY) own a suppressed semiauto or select fire rifle, attend certification training given by the church, qualify on the range (out back of the church) and be a member of the NRA, GOA and JPFO.
Communion would consist of the firing of the rifles at the church range. Summer camp would be held at Thunder Ranch, Gunsite or another professional firearms training facility.
Comprehensive training in all facets of the shooting sports would be offered through the church. Wednesday night study would cover reloading procedures, with one caliber covered in detail each Wednesday, as well as "long distance rifle shooting techniques" and combat handgunnery.
Mission work would consist of traveling to the great dens of iniquity (San Francisco, New York, D of C, Chicago, etc.) to attempt to educate our wayward bretheren (The American Sheeple) regarding the truth about gun ownership, self defense and our Constitutional right to arms.
The Church of the Suppressed Semiautomatic and Select Fire Rifle would be an accredited church, and as such would be a nonprofit organization and tax exempt.
"The Government" would be forced to allow us to operate without harrassment or interference, just like it does with all other churches - you know, that "Freedom of Religion" thing in the Constitution.
Unlike the Branch Davidians, there would be no stores of weapons held on the church premesis - just ammunition and magazines (NO electric guitars) and 70's haistyles would be prohibited.
Can I get an amen, brothers and sisters??
I have threatened for years to get ordained as a minister via the internet and start "The Church of the Suppressed Semiautomatic and Select Fire Rifle."
Services would consist of studying and reading the words of The Founders, as well as Biblical injunctions regarding self-defense and owning weaponry.
To become a member, you would have to (LEGALLY) own a suppressed semiauto or select fire rifle, attend certification training given by the church, qualify on the range (out back of the church) and be a member of the NRA, GOA and JPFO.
Communion would consist of the firing of the rifles at the church range. Summer camp would be held at Thunder Ranch, Gunsite or another professional firearms training facility.
Comprehensive training in all facets of the shooting sports would be offered through the church. Wednesday night study would cover reloading procedures, with one caliber covered in detail each Wednesday, as well as "long distance rifle shooting techniques" and combat handgunnery.
Mission work would consist of traveling to the great dens of iniquity (San Francisco, New York, D of C, Chicago, etc.) to attempt to educate our wayward bretheren (The American Sheeple) regarding the truth about gun ownership, self defense and our Constitutional right to arms.
The Church of the Suppressed Semiautomatic and Select Fire Rifle would be an accredited church, and as such would be a nonprofit organization and tax exempt.
"The Government" would be forced to allow us to operate without harrassment or interference, just like it does with all other churches - you know, that "Freedom of Religion" thing in the Constitution.
Unlike the Branch Davidians, there would be no stores of weapons held on the church premesis - just ammunition and magazines (NO electric guitars) and 70's haistyles would be prohibited.
Can I get an amen, brothers and sisters??
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Yeah. I'm not asking a lot. I've got nothing to hide. I think a lot of people have no idea how loud a gunshot from something like a ported, magnum is until they've shot one. They probably think it's like on TV, imagine it's like having their speakers all the way up with earphones on. But high powered rounds are far, far louder than anything that most people will ever hear in their lives. After some online research, the higher powered guns are within a few decibels of the theoretical limit for sound on earth! They cause instant, irrepairable physical damage to the the shooter and anyone nearby with a single shot.
I don't need to have a shot so quiet people have to wonder what it was. I'm just asking for something reasonable. I just want to quiet down a gunshot to say, the noise level of a car horn, or a jack hammer. Still very very loud to human ears, and can be heard through doors and from several blocks away, but not so loud that the sound itself is physically destructive.
I don't need to have a shot so quiet people have to wonder what it was. I'm just asking for something reasonable. I just want to quiet down a gunshot to say, the noise level of a car horn, or a jack hammer. Still very very loud to human ears, and can be heard through doors and from several blocks away, but not so loud that the sound itself is physically destructive.
Public opinion is too warped for any official to allow suppressors.
[sheeple mode]
Come on, if you aren't doing anything wrong, then you should have no problem with everyone knowing where you are shooting! Even if guns are loud, you can always get hearing protection. You don't need a silencer, so you shouldn't want one. Only murderers use silencer's anyway. You want one, well, you must be planning to kill someone.
[/sheeple mode]
[sheeple mode]
Come on, if you aren't doing anything wrong, then you should have no problem with everyone knowing where you are shooting! Even if guns are loud, you can always get hearing protection. You don't need a silencer, so you shouldn't want one. Only murderers use silencer's anyway. You want one, well, you must be planning to kill someone.
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Put anyone in a room with a .44 mag, a backstop and some full power loads, and they'll see the need to quiet these damn things down. If the decibels were reduced to the level of a car horn, about 50 decibels, everyone would still know where you were shooting, but you wouldn't instantly blow out the ears of everyone in the vicinity. You need a moderator like a pots and pans need handles. Yeah, you could strap on heavy, leather, welder's gloves and be able to pick up the searing hot pots. But it's just a terrible amount of time invested, when you could just build a pot with a handle and save everyone a lot of trouble. It's also important in emergencies, when you don't have time to grab gloves or ear plugs/muffs. It's also impractical for many hunting applications. Who's going to put ear muffs on their dog?
