Sig SP2022?

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Quincy

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What are your thoughts regarding the 9mm version? Significantly less expensive than the aluminum framed Sigs or the polymer H&K's. Trigger feels the same as the other Sig's I looked at, the P226 and P229. The grip isn't quite as good to me as the H&K P30L, but the trigger is better. I don't see a whole lot about them. What do you think?

This would be for range use, HD and possibly CC, but I have a sub compact for that. Thanks.
 
Most sig enthusiast shun them because of the polymer frame but it's a great gun for the money. Usually see used ones pop up in my area for $300-350
 
It is a great gun. It is a real bargain because you can still find them in the $400 to $450 range NIB. They were developed from the SP2009 Sig Pro which never sold well. It is a contract gun that was developed for the French. They put it into service on 2002 and they plan to keep it until 2022.

They first came into the country as contract overruns. They came in a small black box with a xerox manual 3 mags and night sights. They were sold at $375-$400. They sold like hot cakes. You can tell an early contract gun because it has triple serial numbers. One on the frame the slide and the barrel.





Some will also have the German proof marks. Mine does not but it is still a contract gun. Frames will say made in Germany and they will have an internal extractor.

After they started selling well they moved production to the US in NH. They made a few parts changes the most noticeable is that they changed to an external extractor like other US Sigs. I assume this was an economy of scale decision.

They are excellent guns with a very nice smooth trigger. I personally think they are unlike classic P series triggers because the SP2022 trigger pull is longer. It is smooth but longer more like a revolver. SA is nice and crisp but not as short as the new Sig SRT.

I like mine a lot. There is a ton of value in the gun. These days the base model sells for about $425 give or take and comes with 1 mag and contrast sights. You can still find a deal every now and then on NIB ones with night sights for the base model price. Wiedners had some tutones right before Xmas at that price. The down is the 1 mag. Mags are expensive. Not HK expensive but not Sig P series Mecgar cheap. $30-$35 a pop is what they run.

If you like it and are paying $425 give or take or even less for a used one I would get it. They are proven reliable Sigs at a bargain price.
 
Good gun for a decent price. Maybe a bit big for cc depending on your size, but otherwise should be fine. Plus Jason Bourne used one.
 
Jason Bourne? Lol! I never noticed that. So why does polymer bother some, if they use a good combination of materials and design it right, it should hold up at least as well as 7075 aluminum?
 
Jason Bourne? Lol! I never noticed that. So why does polymer bother some, if they use a good combination of materials and design it right, it should hold up at least as well as 7075 aluminum?
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The original P2009 had other issues which caused it not to sell. Propriety rail, not adjustable grips and a different trigger feel. This and the fact it was the first Poly Sig caused some old school Sig shooters to ignore it.

The SP2022 has not had that problem. If you go over to the Sig Forum you will see it has a heavy following including Bruce Gray of Gray guns who used to carry one.

Some people just don't like polymer. Given the choice I will take Alum or steel over poly.
 
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The original P2009 had other issues which caused it not to sell. Propriety rail, not adjustable grips and a different trigger feel. This and the fact it was the first Poly Sig caused some old school Sig shooters to ignore it.
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The SP2009/2340 models do have removable grip scales. The only large grips available are those marked 'SigPro' and made for the original line.

In addition to the other issues WVsig mentioned, the original SigPro guns were relatively expensive - priced more like HKs than Glocks. There was not a lot of incentive for SIG owners to buy a SigPro when a P226/P228/P229 was comparably priced.

When overruns from the French police contract were imported and sold at half the price of the classic P-series models, the SP2022 got the attention of a lot of people. Unfortunately, a model that is sidelined in its early years never gets the attention that a model that is immediately popular gets.

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I have zero complaints about my CPO SP2340...especially for the $325 I paid for it. It's accuracy, reliability and trigger are all excellent. My only complaint is that its a bit top heavy, but I have that problem with most polymer framed pistols.
 
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Given the choice I will take Alum or steel over poly.
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I would have paid more but not twice the price. As stated before it is a little top heavy like all poly guns, but otherwise I have no complaints about mine.
 
I personally don't feel they are a great deal. They are large, look relatively unrefined, and others certainly match and beat them in several functions.

They are creeping up from 350 to 400 and now to 500. They rarely include the second mag, holster, or night sights. Top Gun Supply was running a stainless with holster, ns, and second mag for 400 dollars less than a year ago. They had it at that price for 2 years.

It would be a value at that point. Other than that, I think the PX4 and P-09 are the better values for a polymer hammer fired gun.
 
I think they are a good gun for the money. Nice trigger out of the box. I ended up going with the CZ P-07 but it was a close thing.
 
I got my SP2022 back when they were still able to be found for around $350 new. It is a great gun, but the more the price climbs the less chance I would buy another. For instance, I prefer the Beretta PX4 over the SP2022 and the prices on the two guns are very similar now.
 
I love my sp 2022. I can actually hit torso sized steel targets at 125 yards 7 out of 10 times on a good day with the "combat sights". When I was looking into getting it, it was my first firearm purchase so I didn't a lot of time debating between guns. For me, it came down to the P226, SP2022, Ruger SR9, a CZ that I don't remember the model of and a PX4 storm. Ultimately it came down to the 2022 and SR9. I went with the sig for a couple reasons; the grip fit my hand really well and it came with another larger grip in case my hands grew (lol that was actually what a guy at the LGS said) and the trigger felt better.
I have NO regrets about this gun, I've never had any probablems with ammo reliability or feeding, no light primer strikes, just smooth shooting every trigger pull.
 
The SP2009/2340 models do have removable grip scales. The only large grips available are those marked 'SigPro' and made for the original line.
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I forgot about that. Yes they had medium and large. No small. I used the small one on my SP2022 which is why i probably mentally blocked out the grip changes on the Sp2009. LOL
 
One more vote for the SP2022. I have one and have zero complaints. I've shot pistols with better triggers, but for their price range I think the trigger is about as good as any of its competitors. Interestingly enough mine doesn't seem to like Winchester white box ammo. It'll shoot them, but not as accurately as others. My first choice for the pistol is Fiocchi followed very closely by Blazer. Of course YMMV when it comes to ammo.

I had a PX4 and couldn't get used to the trigger slap. It hit me I shouldn't have to, so I sold it. Other than that it was a good pistol but I like the SP2022 a whole lot better.
 
Another big SP2022 fan. Mine is from the French contract overrun with the beautiful Ilaflon finish.

A proven design and very robust, reliable, durable, and accurate. I almost did not buy a P226 since I was so happy with my SP2022 and how well it shoots for me. The slide rides on massive steel tabs that are not embedded in the frame like most other poly frame pistols. The steel tabs for the front are part of the steel locking insert and for the rear are part of the FCU. Reports of any problems with the SP2022 are fairly unusual especially for the 9MM.


 
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They are an excellent deal at $500 or below. Most people will spend $850+ for a regular SIG. More with certain features. $650+ for CPOs.

The SP 2022 delivers the accuracy, reliability, quality, at a slightly reduced rate for almost half the price. Most of the new ones come with 2 mags, 2 grips, and night sights. LE versions come with 3 mags, night sights, etc. The finish and quality of the slide is identical to any P model. The DA trigger is usually smoother OTB. The SA pull is very good and gets better with use. The DA becomes butter. The grips change the feel - to me one feels more SIG-like, the other makes it more like an XD.

They are EASY to shoot ACCURATELY - laser like. The barrel to slide lockup is like a bank vault.

CZ P07s are great guns, but the trigger will NOT be as refined OTB. Most people end up spending another hundred modding the springs to get a more shootable trigger. Many threads on this. They also cost a tad more and the mags are ALL over $40. (I DO LIKE the P07, and am a CZ guy). Also, sights for the CZ are very limited. The SP takes all SIG P series sights.

I do think the FNX is worth a good look at $100 more. They MIGHT not have quite the trigger, but are lighter and smaller.

BTW - the SP 2022 track record has been better over the past ten years than the P series.
 
The more I shoot mine the more I like it. I bought to replace one of my Beretta PX4's that my daughter decided she wanted.

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