Jumping_Jehosaphat
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This is my first time to review anything but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in because I haven't seen a whole lot on this pistol yet and thought I'd give people who are possibly looking into getting one my initial impressions. I've put 300 rounds through it the past 2 days and each day I've shot it better and better.
Overall impressions for those wanting the Cliff Notes:
YOU WILL NOT GO WRONG BUYING THIS GUN!!! If you want a little more on how I feel about each aspect of the gun feel free to read further. I'm not going to tell you that it's better than a Glock, M&P, FNS, or XD because I think they're all fantastic striker fired weapons. What I will tell you is that I feel like Sig has done a good job with R&D and it looks like they've taken the good of all of the listed guns and put it into one gun.
Initial ergonomics:
I love the way the medium grip feels. For those of you that don't know what the carry model is, it has the compact slide with the full sized grip. It reminds me of the way my M&P fits in my hand with more aggressive texturing. I typically put Hogue Grips on all of my hand guns but I found that my accuracy was effected with the addition of the Hogue Wrap Around Grip. This has not been the case with my FNX, FNS, Glock and M&P.
I am a fan of the grip angle. It's not over-bearing and fairly straight. To me grip angle really isn't that big of a deal. I do think it gives a more natural point when you rapid fire with follow up shots. I've shot Glocks just as well as I have other brands out there and won't complain about any of their grip angles but I'm digging the 320's grip angle
Features that I think are worth noting:
I went ahead and got the factory night sights. They absolutely pop in the daylight and in dim settings. I had night sights on my FNS and was somewhat disappointed because after a few range trips they became dull even after cleaning them.
I think Sig is onto something with the ability to remove the internals and put them into another frame so that you can either have a sub-compact, compact or full-size gun. The down side to this is that if you want another caliber you're going to spend as much as you would if you buy a used M&P, XD, or FN. The positive is if you're in a place that has to register guns I would assume you just have to register the internals because that's where the serial number is. You can also use the P250 mags and P250 frames with the P320 so I would also say that's a plus.
I've heard mixed reviews on the mag well because it does have a small cut out on both sides. I personally think it's a good thing because if you are in a situation where the doo-doo hits the fan and the mag isn't dropping you can get a good enough grip on it to rip the mag out.
Concealability:
I've been carrying my P320 Carry in a Tagua IWB Holster that's designed for the Glock 30 with absolutely zero problems. I was afraid with the full-sized handle there was going to be a bit of an issue with extra printing but it's not. It's very comfortable to wear and with the smaller beaver tail the gun doesn't get in the way like a full size M&P does.
Even with all the rounds in the magazine and a crappy belt I've had no issues with weight of the gun. I would seriously compare it to a Glock 19 in this respect (I don't even know the weights and really don't care...I'm just trying to give people a rough comparison of what the weight felt like to me).
Shooting the Beast:
I'm attaching a picture of my 1st trip to the range at 10 yards with my 320 Carry and the 1st 3 mags ran through it for some sort of visual. I didn't have a chance to get a pic of my rapid fire groupings this afternoon but out of 6 magazines shot at 7 yards they all hit critical mass on the silhouette.
The recoil is very manageable on the 320. I've only shot the 9mm so I can't speak on the 45, 357, or 40. Once the gun was good and warmed up today it almost felt like a 1911 in the fact that once you hit the sweet spot on a 1911 you can feel the internal mechanics working like a well-oiled machine. I typically don't feel it in a striker fired gun but I swear I felt it today from round 75 to the end of my range session.
I love the trigger. I'll use a line from Hickock45 here: "you can dry fire a trigger but it still won't feel quite the same as when you're actually shooting the (firearm)." I was first introduced to striker fired weapons with a Glock 23 and learned that the reset isn't at the end of the trigger. For those of you accustomed to Glocks you know how boringly predictable (I mean that as an extremely positive compliment) their triggers are and so far my Sig has been the same. To me trigger preference is all relative with the weapon and preference. For some reason I believe the Glock trigger "has" to be the way it is because of grip angle and I feel the same about the 320. I do find it more pleasant that my Glock triggers but this is my personal opinion. I will tell you out of the box I think it's better than the newer M&Ps, XDs, and FNSs.
Other than my Glock and 320 there are times I find myself stumbling with the reset on my striker fired guns. I know some people will say that I'm not getting enough training with that trigger or I shouldn't shoot different guns because of that but after 1,000 plus rounds in all of them I would think my muscle memory would kick in at some point. The past 2 days I have had zero issues hitting the reset on my 320. Call me crazy but the reset is hitting at around the same distance the recoil is felt. If that doesn't make sense let me put it this way...I found myself more often than not leaving my finger where it was after the trigger break instead of having to move my finger forward to feel the reset.
The 320 hits where you put it like a tuned in 1911. I initially had issues with my Glock and M&P until I hit the 200-300 round mark. I was shooting low with both of them. I haven't had that issue with the 320 at all. Rapid firing the 320 is also a breeze but you have to get used to the higher bore axis. Once you've had some practice I would really compare it to either the full size M&P 9 or the Glock 17/19.
Things that I don't like about it:
As do all Sigs it comes with a cheap feeling/looking holster and the holster is designed for the full size 320/250. If you can't get another holster for the 320 then it's a viable option but for the quality of the weapon itself I'm a little disappointed in the holster (then again if you buy the gun the holster is probably the least of your worries).
It's still relatively new and there aren't a whole lot of "goodies" for it out right now. I got off the phone with Alien Gear earlier and they're in the process of making a shell for the carry model but they do have one for the full size, compact, and sub compact.
For some reason I have had a hard time thinking of this as a down-right dirty, "working man's" gun and here's what I mean by that: when I think about "combat" weapons I think about the Glock, M&P, and FN's. Are the Sigs service weapons? Absolutely! Look at all the police departments that use them! I just don't know if I had something that was subliminally planted in my brain somewhere when I was younger or not but that's one of the reasons I haven't gone with a Sig until now.
I hope this helps you out. If you want a good 1st time CCW that's built with quality and shoots smooth then I feel like the Sig Sauer P320 is a great choice. If you don't want to spend the $100 or so then you definitely will not go wrong with any of the other brands out there.
Overall impressions for those wanting the Cliff Notes:
YOU WILL NOT GO WRONG BUYING THIS GUN!!! If you want a little more on how I feel about each aspect of the gun feel free to read further. I'm not going to tell you that it's better than a Glock, M&P, FNS, or XD because I think they're all fantastic striker fired weapons. What I will tell you is that I feel like Sig has done a good job with R&D and it looks like they've taken the good of all of the listed guns and put it into one gun.
Initial ergonomics:
I love the way the medium grip feels. For those of you that don't know what the carry model is, it has the compact slide with the full sized grip. It reminds me of the way my M&P fits in my hand with more aggressive texturing. I typically put Hogue Grips on all of my hand guns but I found that my accuracy was effected with the addition of the Hogue Wrap Around Grip. This has not been the case with my FNX, FNS, Glock and M&P.
I am a fan of the grip angle. It's not over-bearing and fairly straight. To me grip angle really isn't that big of a deal. I do think it gives a more natural point when you rapid fire with follow up shots. I've shot Glocks just as well as I have other brands out there and won't complain about any of their grip angles but I'm digging the 320's grip angle
Features that I think are worth noting:
I went ahead and got the factory night sights. They absolutely pop in the daylight and in dim settings. I had night sights on my FNS and was somewhat disappointed because after a few range trips they became dull even after cleaning them.
I think Sig is onto something with the ability to remove the internals and put them into another frame so that you can either have a sub-compact, compact or full-size gun. The down side to this is that if you want another caliber you're going to spend as much as you would if you buy a used M&P, XD, or FN. The positive is if you're in a place that has to register guns I would assume you just have to register the internals because that's where the serial number is. You can also use the P250 mags and P250 frames with the P320 so I would also say that's a plus.
I've heard mixed reviews on the mag well because it does have a small cut out on both sides. I personally think it's a good thing because if you are in a situation where the doo-doo hits the fan and the mag isn't dropping you can get a good enough grip on it to rip the mag out.
Concealability:
I've been carrying my P320 Carry in a Tagua IWB Holster that's designed for the Glock 30 with absolutely zero problems. I was afraid with the full-sized handle there was going to be a bit of an issue with extra printing but it's not. It's very comfortable to wear and with the smaller beaver tail the gun doesn't get in the way like a full size M&P does.
Even with all the rounds in the magazine and a crappy belt I've had no issues with weight of the gun. I would seriously compare it to a Glock 19 in this respect (I don't even know the weights and really don't care...I'm just trying to give people a rough comparison of what the weight felt like to me).
Shooting the Beast:
I'm attaching a picture of my 1st trip to the range at 10 yards with my 320 Carry and the 1st 3 mags ran through it for some sort of visual. I didn't have a chance to get a pic of my rapid fire groupings this afternoon but out of 6 magazines shot at 7 yards they all hit critical mass on the silhouette.
The recoil is very manageable on the 320. I've only shot the 9mm so I can't speak on the 45, 357, or 40. Once the gun was good and warmed up today it almost felt like a 1911 in the fact that once you hit the sweet spot on a 1911 you can feel the internal mechanics working like a well-oiled machine. I typically don't feel it in a striker fired gun but I swear I felt it today from round 75 to the end of my range session.
I love the trigger. I'll use a line from Hickock45 here: "you can dry fire a trigger but it still won't feel quite the same as when you're actually shooting the (firearm)." I was first introduced to striker fired weapons with a Glock 23 and learned that the reset isn't at the end of the trigger. For those of you accustomed to Glocks you know how boringly predictable (I mean that as an extremely positive compliment) their triggers are and so far my Sig has been the same. To me trigger preference is all relative with the weapon and preference. For some reason I believe the Glock trigger "has" to be the way it is because of grip angle and I feel the same about the 320. I do find it more pleasant that my Glock triggers but this is my personal opinion. I will tell you out of the box I think it's better than the newer M&Ps, XDs, and FNSs.
Other than my Glock and 320 there are times I find myself stumbling with the reset on my striker fired guns. I know some people will say that I'm not getting enough training with that trigger or I shouldn't shoot different guns because of that but after 1,000 plus rounds in all of them I would think my muscle memory would kick in at some point. The past 2 days I have had zero issues hitting the reset on my 320. Call me crazy but the reset is hitting at around the same distance the recoil is felt. If that doesn't make sense let me put it this way...I found myself more often than not leaving my finger where it was after the trigger break instead of having to move my finger forward to feel the reset.
The 320 hits where you put it like a tuned in 1911. I initially had issues with my Glock and M&P until I hit the 200-300 round mark. I was shooting low with both of them. I haven't had that issue with the 320 at all. Rapid firing the 320 is also a breeze but you have to get used to the higher bore axis. Once you've had some practice I would really compare it to either the full size M&P 9 or the Glock 17/19.
Things that I don't like about it:
As do all Sigs it comes with a cheap feeling/looking holster and the holster is designed for the full size 320/250. If you can't get another holster for the 320 then it's a viable option but for the quality of the weapon itself I'm a little disappointed in the holster (then again if you buy the gun the holster is probably the least of your worries).
It's still relatively new and there aren't a whole lot of "goodies" for it out right now. I got off the phone with Alien Gear earlier and they're in the process of making a shell for the carry model but they do have one for the full size, compact, and sub compact.
For some reason I have had a hard time thinking of this as a down-right dirty, "working man's" gun and here's what I mean by that: when I think about "combat" weapons I think about the Glock, M&P, and FN's. Are the Sigs service weapons? Absolutely! Look at all the police departments that use them! I just don't know if I had something that was subliminally planted in my brain somewhere when I was younger or not but that's one of the reasons I haven't gone with a Sig until now.
I hope this helps you out. If you want a good 1st time CCW that's built with quality and shoots smooth then I feel like the Sig Sauer P320 is a great choice. If you don't want to spend the $100 or so then you definitely will not go wrong with any of the other brands out there.
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Off to the internet to figure this out. Apparently I failed to lock the slide back when disassembling and this is the result due to some safety interlocks. OK, my bad and easily avoided with this knowledge in hand. 