Sig Pro Price and other Sig Questions

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I am a total Newbie when it come to handguns, but decided to purchase one before the possibility to own one become impossible, kind of a political statement. I intend to use it for self defence and have found that I enjoy shooting. I would just like some comments on the following questions.

1. is $480 a good price for a Sig Pro .40 with night sights in Orange County CA. I have heard alot of good things about Sigs, and when I put it in my hand, it just felt right. I had been considering a Ruger KP97, but decided that .45 was a little too much, as I need my wife to be able to handle the gun. The Sig seemed to be much nicer, as well as being more expensive.

2. What Ammo should I use for for the first 200 or so rounds?

3. What is the best Home defense ammo in this Caliber.

4. I have a 3 year old daughter, and so am interested in the best Lockbox, Safe Etc that is available. Something that can allow the pistol to be readily available while still safe. I WILL very carefully educate my daughter on firearms safety issues.

Thank you for your time and input.

Tim
 
Hello, and welcome to TFL. I have no personal experience with the SigPro, but lots with their tradtional alloy-framed series. By all accounts, their plastic model is a great gun, but it has not been a good seller in today's competitive market. I cannot comment on the price, except to say that night sights usually add $75 to the cost of a pistol. Therefore, you are getting the gun for around $400, which seems good to me.
I would encourage you to consider a revolver as your first choice of a handgun. They are far easier to operate when new to shooting, and low cost, low recoil .38 ammo is abundant. There is less general mainenance associated with them also.
If you insist on buying a semi-auto, I would suggest a 9mm rather than .40. You said that your wife had to be able to handle it. The .40 is a higher pressure round, which means more blast and recoil. Both of which are detrimental to comfort and quality practice. The second reason is cost. The 9mm can be had for as low as $6 per box when bought in quantity. The .40 is no where near as cheap. Cheaper ammo means more frequent practice. Today's high quality defensive ammo in 9mm in no slouch, regardless of what some naysayers will say to discourage you.
If you decide to stick with the .40, I would look at the lighter weight rounds for defense. The 135gr. Personal Defense load from Federal is a nice, mild recoiling choice if that is a concern. Otherwise, the same weight load from CorBon appears to be at, or near the top. In the 155gr class, I chose the Winchester Silvertips. I desire fast expansion more than I do deep penetration. Bear in mind, ALL conventional hollowpoint rounds are capable of going through a typical household wall, or possibly two. As to practice, and break-in ammo, consider any reputable brand of factory-made "ball" ammo to be adequate. After break-in, and a thorough cleaning, run at least two boxes of your choice in defense ammo through the gun to ensure its relialbility with it.
Whatever you choose, seek out some qualified instruction. Perhaps the store you are dealing with offers some classes. Proper initial introduction is well worth the initial cost. Safety is paramount! There are several good lockboxes designed for hadguns. I personally, would avoid those that depend on a battery-operated mechanism, or fast and fancy fingerwork to trip the "combination". Murphy says that both have the potential for problems if, and when, you need your gun. :(
 
I too live in OC, CA. Is that $480 out the door or before registration and tax? I know Turners have the Beretta 92 FS on sale for $499 this week.. Thought the Sig Pro is nice, I have little experience with the gun to give you a good review. The Beretta 92FS on the other hand is a different, I have two and highly recommend. I have many guns, Sig, Browning,Kahr,etc.. and what we keep for defense is the Beretta.
1) My wife is only 5'2 and 115lbs, out of all the guns; the Beretta 92 and the Glock 19 are the only two guns she has little trouble pulling back the slide and loading a round in the chamber.
2) Recoil is a factor so we chose the 9mm, though 40 is not too bad. The less my wife is intimidated by the recoil the more accurate and confidence she is.
3) Cost of ammo, Like Victor Louis said, cost is actually an issue...once ammo becomes expensive..you'll practice less, thus when the time comes you might not hit your mark. I think shot placement is more important than cartridge selection. (22 lr kills more people than any other cartridge). Plus todays technology in hollowpoints has gone a long ways.
4) Check out the following URL: http://www.bnbsales.com/ad.htm, they have a safe way of storing a loaded handgun.

By the way, we keep our guns with a loaded mag and no round in the chamber, the hammer is cocked. So to get the gun into action, you just have to rack the slide...
Good Luck
 
As much as I like SIG Sauers I would shy away from the sig pro. They're fine pistols, but for polymer I'd go with a Glock. The manual of arms is simpler, they're about the same price, they're more compact and they'll last forever.

Now, if want a 40 SIG Sauer give the P229 a hard look. It's one very sweet pistol.

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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."
 
Thanks for the thoughts Guys

I did think Revovlver at first, and went out and shot a few in various calibers,.357,.38,.44. The trouble being that a potent .357 round had quite alot of kick and blast. My wife also seems to prefer semi-automatics. Then I went and fired some various other rounds .380, 9mm, 10mm,.40,.45. in diffrent guns. I fired a Glock and hated it (sorry glock lovers). I wanted a gun with a hammer, and DA/SA. For some reason I don't like firing a hammerless gun. The .40 seemed like the best compromise between the others, and the SIG was the best deal that I Saw. B&B Sales could not beat the Deal.

I have looked at the price of Ammo, and consider it reasonable, as I was considering buying a .45

I did look at the price of Amuunition, and decided that I would be able to afford to run Ammo through it.

As I said before the Gun fit like it belonged in my hand, better then the SIG classic. And I do like the thought of being able to run 357 Sig with the purchase of a barrel.

I will definately take some more training, and am thinking of joining an IPSC club, I think thats the Initials.

Thanks for taking time to write out your thoughts guys.

Tim
 
To follow-up a private Email. You will find that Glock is the best selling semi-auto on the market and so you will always find the greatest number of people suggesting Glock. It is funny that you mention the hammer. As I mentioned in my Email, I hate DA/SA. I liked the idea of the hammer, but just as I had purchased this gun, I developed, unrelated, a horrible cramp in my shooting thumb and the tendons pulled away from the insertion. I could not pull the hammer back. I have since healed, but haven't shot the gun recently. Remember that in a self-defense mode, you NEVER want to pull the hammer back and shoot your first shot in SA. The prosecutor will have a field day. I always shot that first shot with less skill than the single action shots.

The polymer is to many Sig fans what a front engine is to many Porche fans. My Sig Pro is well made and has all of the advantages and disadvantages of a polymer gun. I can't say that it is constructed any better, or worse than my Glocks.

With regards to handguns. My girlfriend's Ruger SP101 can shoot 38 38+P and .357 magnum. This ability to shoot a range of loads is a major advantage to her. The blast and recoil are selectable. Within any one caliber you will find that the degree of muzzle blast will differ from load to load. I am beginning to favor 9mm and .45ACP. I do think that much of the arguement as to the best defensive round is intellectual craziness. I don't think that the bad guy will be able to tell the difference between one of the better .40, .45, or Sig .357. The 9mm may be just below these calibers in performance. I find that in rapid drills I can shoot a 9mm more accurately and with greater speed than other major calibers. Of course, the P7 series guns are said to be widely used just because of these two qualities.

If you like the DA/SA then go buy the one with the night sights. It sounds like a good deal. As mentioned, on a new gun you will pay tax and the like, but what's new in that?
 
The Sigpro is just one of many good guns out there. The most important things is that you said that it felt good to you and that you like the features it offers. That should be more important than what every joe-shmo or LE agency uses.

I like the Sigpro, I'm getting one soon. There aren't any 10+ round mags for it but since you're in Kali, that doesn't matter. I've found them to be accurate and reliable just like other Sigs. The price you listed isn't too bad with night sights as I've seen them go for that price without the night sights.

If your wife is going to use the gun, make sure she can handle it as the grip and trigger pull can be a bit much for smaller hands and fingers. If you get the Sigpro in .40 you can also get a .357Sig barrel if desired and have two calibers.

You might be able to buy a 9mm barrel from www.barsto.com so you can have 3 calibers from one gun. I know that this is possible with the other P-series Sigs like the P226, P229, and P239 and over at www.sigforum.com there are several people who have done so. Kind of nice.

Depending on your area, ammo prices can vary. In my area, .45 and .40 aren't that much different in price from 9mm so cost isn't too much of an issue with me. 9mm is perfectly adequate for defense and is accurate.

You just have to find what works best in YOUR personal gun. I use CCI Blazer aluminum cased ammo. They're accurate and reliable and they are really clean; nice if you go to indoor ranges. Added plus is that the cases aren't reusable so if you don't reload, you can just junk them.

With defense rounds, you'll have to try a bunch and see what's reliable and accurate. Stick with 115 or 124gr JHP's for 9mm or 155 or 165gr JHP's for .40. It's shot placement that counts.

Don't overlook getting an inexpensive .22 handgun like a Browning Buckmark. They usually go for around $200 and a .22 is fun and inexpensive for plinking and developing shooting skills. 500 rounds of .22 goes for around $10, $10 buys you about 50 rounds of 9mm, .40, etc which you can pile through in a matter of minutes.

As far as lock boxes go, there are a variety out there. There are some that require a key while others you simply dial in a code on some buttons and it pops open for instant use. You can attach these under a desk or under the bed. Don't overlook a safe. You can store more than guns in a safe and it's usually a better place to keep the gun when you aren't around.

If you do go with the Sigpro or some other DA/SA handgun, make sure you practice using the first shot DA; i.e. decock before shooting. That way you can get used to the transition between DA and SA. The transition is no big deal, at least for me :) and practice will help.

If you want the same trigger pull every time, you'll have to look into getting a DAO or something SA or a Glock. Sigpros and Sig P-series are easily converted to DAO BTW. Good luck.

[This message has been edited by KOG (edited July 24, 2000).]
 
I have a SigPro .40 and love it very accurate and I also purchased a .357 Sig Drop in barell for it that is great. Have not had one prob with it no jams and feeds everything I would suggest getting one!!

Good Luck
 
Get the 2340 in .357sig and practice,practice,practice. If you wanna glock go to a tupperware party. I've owned both and my 2340 in .357sig, although it takes practice,practice,practice is a far superior weapon and just takes some getting used to. Any glock lovers out there who want go to the range and prove me wrong about glocks just let me know.
 
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