SIG PE90 & ELCAN Spectre

ZEN.45

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I thought I would try to write a review on a weapon and an optic that is a bit uncommon in the US. Please keep in mind that English isn’t my first language (or even my second language).


The rifle:
Last year I was looking around in a local gun shop that specializes in military surplus weapons. They just received about a dozen of ex Swiss Army Stgw90’s (SIG550) that were converted to semi automatic. The Stgw90’s were in good (but not great) condition and I hesitated until I noticed there was a PE90 (civilian SA version of the Stgw90) behind the counter that looked as good as new. Obviously that’s the one I got and as a ‘regular’ customer they even gave me a sling, 2nd magazine and a picatinny mount.

I had shot a few rounds with a SIG550 a long time ago but this was the first time I disassembled one and studied every detail. The first word that popped up in my mind was ‘quality’, every part fits perfectly and all controls are very smooth. The ergonomics are beyond reproach and the skeleton folding stock is a lot more comfortable than those metal folding stocks I’m used to. At 4,1 kg (9lb) it feels rather heavy for a .223, but when you remove the hand guard the reason for that weight becomes obvious; a really ‘fat’ barrel. Because I’m more used to ‘battle rifles’ than ‘assault rifles’ the weight doesn’t really bother me and I like the precision and the resistance to heating that come with a heavy barrel.

Before I used the rifle, I intended to remove the integrated bipod that seemed rather vulnerable and impractical. But a single trip to the range convinced me of the opposite … when folded you don’t even notice it’s presence and when deployed it’s actually quite usable.

At the shooting range the rifle proved to be a joy to shoot and its reputation for precision justified. Even with S&B 55gr instead of the quality Swiss Gp90 round. However, my eyes aren’t what they used to be and I felt this rifle (and me) needed an optic.

To sum it up … heavy, expensive, robust, practical and well made.





The sight:
I wanted an optic sight with limited magnification and preferable ‘military’ style that would ‘fit’ the rifle.

An ACOG seemed the obvious choice but unfortunately they’re very hard to find in Europe. Whenever I found a seller it was overpriced and I had to accept one of the 1 or 2 models available. So I looked for alternatives and stumbled upon the Elcan Spectre DR 1x4 that apparently had all the specifications I was looking for.

I ordered one online from a German company and they promptly delivered. When I held the Spectre my first reaction was “%£*µ$, this thing is HEAVY”. I knew from my research it was heavy, but reading the numbers and feeling it are rather different. It feels like you could hammer a nail with it. But then again, it feels like you could hammer the nail … without damaging the Spectre.

The glass is as clear as I’ve ever seen on an optic and the big lenses allow at lot of light to flow true. Eye relief and field of view are very good. There is a fast throw lever to switch between 1X and 4X that is easy to manipulate. I read somewhere that people were reporting a shift in POI when switching between 1X and 4X. I haven’t had the opportunity to shoot long range yet, but in a quick test at 100m (109 yards) I can’t see any change of POI when going from 4X to 1X.

Another point of criticism was the external adjustment system. Personally, I believe it’s a smart move from the Elcan people … whenever I read/hear about an optic sight failing it’s usually the adjustment system that broke. By making it external they could build it like a tank (and they did).

There are 5 illumination settings for the aiming dot and another 5 settings for illuminating the total reticle. At first I thought that this was too much but by using it I’ve learned to appreciate it. It allows to choose a setting that will give the optimal combination between good contrast with the target and a sharp well-defined aiming dot.

Finally there’s the backup ghost sights on top. They can easily be removed, but I keep them as a ‘buffer’ in case I would drop my rifle … and that’s the only thing they’re good for in my opinion.

To sum it up … heavy, expensive, robust, practical and well made.


 
I T&Ed an Elcan Spectre DR 1/4 on a M4 and test fit it on my SIG556.

The SIG/Elcan combo does make for a heavy beast. Heavy, but sexy.

Anyway, looks great and glad you like it. Wish I could get hold of the real deal for a reasonable price.
 
Interesting... that rifle wouldn't just be rare here in the States, it flat wouldn't exist thanks to various importation rules and our own regulatory agency's position that "once a full auto, always a full auto."

Sig sells the 556 here and it is related to the 550, but to my knowledge we won't likely ever see a rifle like yours on our shores.
 
Sig sells the 556 here and it is related to the 550, but to my knowledge we won't likely ever see a rifle like yours on our shores.
CDNN has some used SIG 551-A1s for about $1400. Imported as semis, so no additional paperwork required.

BTW, apparently his is a semi only version of the 550. Could have been imported, I suppose.
 
Very nice

Wow, I would love to have one of those.

BTW your English is excellent. Are the gun laws in Belgium more restrictive for handguns than long guns?
 
BTW, apparently his is a semi only version of the 550. Could have been imported, I suppose.

OP says his was "converted to semiauto." According to the ATF in the US, there's no such thing... once full auto, always full auto, even if it is only semi with the current parts installed. It would only be importable as a parts kit, and even then you'd have to clear a 922r parts count at assembly.
 
@sailskidrive

Belgian gun laws aren’t more restrictive for handguns than long guns. I’m not going to bore you with all the details, but basically as long as you’re an active member of a shooting range and have a clean criminal record you can pretty much buy anything that isn’t full automatic or silenced.
You do have to apply for a license each time and that takes between 1 and 3 months. Personally I have licenses for a SIG P228, SIG P220, H&K USP Expert, 1911 (x3), H&K MP5 (semi), SIG550, Garand and Galil.
You can also apply for a ‘sport shooting license’ that allows you to buy .22 pistols, rifles (except SA), shotguns and black powder guns. With such a ‘sport shooting license’ you can buy this kind of weapons without having to apply for separate licenses. That way I bought a Beretta .22 Cheetah and a M39 (Finnish Mosin-Nagant).


@ Technosavant

Actually, there were ex-military 550’s (Stgw90) at the store that are converted from FA to SA, but mine is a PE90 that is SA from the factory. Today the 550’s are made by ‘Swiss Arms’ in both FA and SA versions. I don’t know enough about your gun laws to know if this changes anything.
 
I don’t know enough about your gun laws to know if this changes anything.
It does, though I'm not sure how much. US rules say, as mentioned earlier, that automatic weapons can't be converted to non-automatic weapons (once a machinegun, always a machinegun).

The fact that yours was originally manufactured as a semi-only makes it possible that ATF would consider it for import, though whether they would approve it is another matter.

I think the ones that CDNN has are former Law Enforcement guns that, because they were imported as semi-only, can be sold to the general public.
 
The fact that yours was originally manufactured as a semi-only makes it possible that ATF would consider it for import, though whether they would approve it is another matter.

Highly doubtful, thanks to the "sporting purpose" clause.

Such rifles are prevented from being sent here two different ways:

1) According to the US regulatory agency (BATF), there's no such thing as a gun that has been converted to semiauto from full-auto. The only thing a person could do is to torch cut the receiver and import it as a parts kit. Many AKs in the US have been constructed from such a kit. Apparently they're afraid that if the receiver has the appropriate spots for an auto sear and whatnot, we can just swap in the parts and go nuts with it.

2) Importation rules say that "nonsporting" rifles can have no more than 10 imported parts. Therefore, on a given list of parts (ones the gun doesn't have don't count), you can only have 10 parts of non-US origin. If you're using a parts kit you can't just use all of them; some have to be swapped out with parts made in the US, and without a US company making said parts, you won't get the rifle put together. This is why rifles of this nature, if sold in the US, are made in the US, even by foreign companies like Sigarms.
 
I think the ones that CDNN has are former Law Enforcement guns that, because they were imported as semi-only, can be sold to the general public.



The 551-A1 is made in New Hampshire just like the 556s. They are trying to please all the people who've said "just give us the 551!". Apparently there are still slight mechanical (and quality) differences between the -A1 and a real deal Swiss made 55x.
 
The 551-A1 is made in New Hampshire just like the 556s. They are trying to please all the people who've said "just give us the 551!". Apparently there are still slight mechanical (and quality) differences between the -A1 and a real deal Swiss made 55x.
Yeah, I just saw that SIG is offering the 551a1 on their website.

Do you know what those differences are? Looks to me that they put a 551-ish (not stamped) lower on a standard 556 upper.

I like it, though.
 
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