Sig P227 Trigger Break on Double-action pull

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Bought a new Sig P227 (SAS Gen 2 model) a few months back and the trigger just doesn't break on DA pull where I'm used to. Prior experience is with the Sig P229 in .40 which I've had for probably 10 years and have never had an issue with. P229 is what I'm now used to, but when I pull trigger on P227 in DA mode it just takes a little bit more pull than I think it should.

Maybe the answer is I just need to shoot it more. But the thoughts that go through my mind when it I pull the trigger and a round isn't sent down range, only to realize I need to pull the trigger further... are uncomfortable.

I'm not sure if its a trigger weight issue, length of "pull" issue, or both..

I'm not a pistol expert by any means, but I'd like to make my P227 trigger more like my P229 trigger. Any suggestions?

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Do both guns have the same type of trigger? I know some SIGs have the Short Rest Trigger (SRT) which might be the issue. If so parts are available from SIG and other aftermarket suppliers.
 
I feel you are just trying to compare a handgun your used to shooting, to a new and different handgun.
I would do more shooting with the new P227,and if you still don't like the way the trigger pull is in D/A, i would sell it.
 
Priest,

Your problem is likely very real.

Lately, Sig has taken to using the Short Reach Trigger, or "Skinny" trigger.

If your fingers are long, like mine, you will over reach. My finger went in all the way to the joint on my P227. Then, my fingertip would contact the frame as I pulled.

Some fatter grips and a Standard (Fat) trigger made it function just the way I like.

The trigger was $29.99 at MidwayUSA.com, Product #: 249899. I installed it myself, numerous YouTube videos are available.

I would do the trigger first, you may not need the fatter grips.
 
But the thoughts that go through my mind when it I pull the trigger and a round isn't sent down range, only to realize I need to pull the trigger further... are uncomfortable.
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Are you trying to stage the trigger? If you're pressing the trigger straight to the rear you shouldn't really notice where it breaks in DA. Typically most DA/SA triggers break very far back in DA. Maybe the total trigger travel on the P227 is longer than on the P229 for some reason?

Sig does make a short reach trigger that is thinner. If your P227 or P229 has one and the other doesn't that could be a factor.
 
If I had your P227 SAS Gen2 bought new I'd contact the SIG SAUER Customer Service Department with the serial number of your pistol at (603) 418-8102 and discuss the options to lighten the DA trigger pull, including the Action Enhancement Package, which won't void your warranty.
 
This is hilarious! I was just talking with Uncle Malice about this.

I've had my P226 since 2010 and it has close to 10k through it. The DA pull is amazing on it and the SA is scary good.

My P229 is a much newer purchase, but made in the same year (2010) as my P226. Doesn't even have close to as many rounds down the tube.

The P226 trigger is amazing and the P229 trigger is little more rough!



My conclusion? Shoot the P227 a lot more! lol.. I did take a small shortcut when Mr. Malice sold me his Gray Guns trigger shoe called the "P-SPIT" trigger. I agree with him in that the SRT trigger is awesome, but the trigger shoe leaves little to be desired in comparison to the GG trigger shoe.


So, you can take the P-SPIT trigger which is a small shortcut or you can take my long way. As I did with the P226 and shoot it a whole ton.
 
As some have suggested it may be the "skinny" trigger. I have a 227 carry and 229 enhanced elite and when I changed out the 227 to the "standard" trigger and included the srt (carry didn't come with it) it is almost identical DA Pull to my 229. Perfect now, I hate the skinny trigger. I also would suggest that you dry fire enough. Just a side note I felt exactly the same with my 239 when I first got it and after about 200 rounds it seem to break in very nice. Why I think that matters is that I was surprised by the trigger "reach" being different made the pull feel heavier than it really was. I actually measured the 238 Da vs my 229 and the 239 was slightly less but felt heavier due to the different reach if that make sense. Worse case scenario you can always change out the hammer spring to lighten the pull. That's about a $10 fix.
 
Wow, really good feedback here. Yes, my P227 has the SRT.

Took a CC license course two weeks ago, passed shooting stage with P227 (lady got the tried and true P229 for the class) but based on shot patterns instructor suggested I might be overreaching on trigger.

Precisely what jnichols said, though you weren't on range that day. :)
 
Priest said:
Wow, really good feedback here. Yes, my P227 has the SRT.



Took a CC license course two weeks ago, passed shooting stage with P227 (lady got the tried and true P229 for the class) but based on shot patterns instructor suggested I might be overreaching on trigger.



Precisely what jnichols said, though you weren't on range that day. :)
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To make life more confusing, there are two options from the SIG factory that can abbreviate SRT. There is the Short Reset Trigger and there is the Short Reach Trigger. They're often sold together, but you don't have to have one to have the other. Just FYI.
 
To make life more confusing, there are two options from the SIG factory that can abbreviate SRT. There is the Short Reset Trigger and there is the Short Reach Trigger
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Yes, sorry I should have mentioned this in may earlier post. Call SIG they'll tell you what your gun is equipped with and offer suggestion for improvement. I've never used their gun smithing services, but read good reviews.
 
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