Sig P226 - Slide and ejected shell

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RT0

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Hi,

Few days back, I fired around 100 rounds in a rental Sig P226 in 9mm. It is a very gun, great control, trigger, the grip is also good. Enjoyed it a lot. I know rentals are not always in the best shape, but this range seems like an exception. I have 2 comments and maybe the experience members will have more to say on this.
The Slide did not always lock back when the magazine was empty. This seemed strange until I confirmed it.
Also, the empty shell sometimes(3 in 100) use to eject backwards, coming towards me. I am right handed shooter with a prominent left eye and shoot with both my eyes open. The stance was weaver.

Thanks
RT0
 
In reponse to your first problem it seems as
though the magazine wasn't fully seated; or that the firearm was very dirty!!! :( In the event this happens again while conducting
shooting drills, always remember to RACK the
slide back, TAP the magazine completely into
the magazine well, and BANG the shot away!!!
In real life situations, this could be a life
saving technique. :D

I'm not completely sure as to why the spent
case's were being ejected rearward, towards
the shooter. :(

Meglio Augurio,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
On the first part, it sounds like a dirty mag, a worn follower (the section that presses against the slide stop), or the mag spring has weakened with use.

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- Ron V.
 
Or besides being dirty (which many rental guns are) it could also be the ammunition which was used (underpowered).

As far as erratic ejection (dirty gun, ammunition), it can also be the shooter (grip).
 
Ejecting straight back can happen. Both my 226 and my 220/1 do that
occasionally. Seems to have something to do with the speed of the
slide going out of battery at the recoil.

Try to test ammo which is loaded really hot and some which is loaded
to normal levels. Tell me what happens.
 
The ammo was 115 grain metal case (9mm Luger) by Remington UMC.

It could be grip too.

But the information tell me, more than handgun usage, hadgun mantainance is what eally requires understanding and knowledge.

RT0
 
The slide never locks back when I shoot my 226. This is because I use a high thumb hold like the hi-speed guys with the 1911s except that the slide release on the 226 is farther back. If you keep your right thumb up at all it can hit the slide release when the gun recoils and keep the slide from locking back on an empty magazine. Don't know on the brass coming back, I've never had that problem.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ala Dan:
In the event this happens again while conducting shooting drills, always remember to RACK theslide back, TAP the magazine completely intothe magazine well, and BANG the shot away!!! In real life situations, this could be a life saving technique. :D Meglio Augurio, Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member[/quote]

RTO, You should be advised that Dan's Rack, Tap, Bang drill will likely sound like Rack, Tap, CLICK!
The drill is called Tap, Rack, Bang because that is the only way it will work. I am sure that Dan meant to say Tap, Rack, Bang.

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Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat!

I hunt, therefore I am.

[This message has been edited by blades67 (edited October 22, 2000).]
 
Guess I am finding out new things or probably uncertain behaviour is the norm! :))
The Glock 17 I used (again a rental, I am still deciding what to buy! :)) would rack the slide when I put the magazine in. And again this was inconsistent, sometimes it happens and then it does not!

The Sig is the most natural, while the beretta is the most good looking and yet accurate.

RT0
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RT0:
Guess I am finding out new things or probably uncertain behaviour is the norm! :))
The Glock 17 I used (again a rental, I am still deciding what to buy! :)) would rack the slide when I put the magazine in. And again this was inconsistent, sometimes it happens and then it does not!

The Sig is the most natural, while the beretta is the most good looking and yet accurate.

RT0[/quote]

There are a number of things that can cause the slide to drop into battery when a magazine is inserted. As noted the gun is a rental and dirty. If you slam the magazine base hard enough the slide catch can disengage. (The pistol can also be launched over the firing line and a cease fire called so that the gun can be recovered. That was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.) A weak magazine spring or worn follower may not engage the slide lock lever properly. These are a few of the causes to look for.

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Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat!

I hunt, therefore I am.
 
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