Shotshell data needed

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cdoc42

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Where can I get reloading data for 12GA shotshells, (WAA 2-3/4") with 1-oz and 1-1/8-oz loads using Red Dot and Blue Dot? I went on Alliant's website but they only list 1-oz loads with Red Dot and Blue Dot recipes are only shown for 3-1/2 shells.

I have data but it's from 30 years ago.
 
With those old Hercules /Alliant powders that have long been in existence before your birthday. I think it's OK to use the info you have already on hand. "so long as it was published material" If you didn't have any literature period. I would than suggest you look for some before ether's use.
 
Another good source is at Ballistic Products website, somewhat of a pain to navigate but good data is there (in more than one place sadly). It is in the area with wads.
 
Thanks to all for the responses. rg1, your link is particularly helpful and is exactly what I'm looking for.
 
One more thing, if I may. I had the occasion to acquire about 900 Alcan shotshell primers, which are made in Italy. Small tins of 100 each. I seated one in an empty 20-GA shotshell and fired it to see if they were still ok as they are about 30 years old. It fired. But it seemed to have seated with little effort; it measures 0.22" while a CCI 209 measures 0.23". Is there any reason I should not use these?
 
Just 2 days ago I was in a similar situation. Looking up 1 oz. loads with those wads. I used the third edition Lyman Shotshell Handbook. Page 154 shows using Remington RXP case target cases. Red Dot 19.5 grs., Primer Rem.97 , Wad One Win. #wAA12, Vel. 1315, Pressure 9,300 (LUP).
I ended up loading a AA case with Hi-Skor 700X 16.5 grs., W209 primer in stead of CCI-109, WAA12, 1195 Vel. and 8,700 LUP. I found the lead at Sta.4 to be about 3'. A load with more speed could help. Go with the Red Dot if you want the speed.
 
Acan are darn good primers. What you feel is the difference in measurement used in there making. Millimeter verses inches. Years ago Alcan had a reputation of expanding their hulls primer pocket upon their seating which was a good thing for excessively used hulls. But not so good if wanting to use American made primers there after. You'll probably have need a one of these down the road. (link)

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Universal-Primer-Pocket-Conditioner-10ga-410/productinfo/0740010/
 
Thanks, Longshot; I'll give that Red Dot recipe a try.

Shur Shot, your description sounds like the opposite of mine. The Alcan primers are SMALLER than the 209's - my measurement would negate the Italian millimeters manufacturing issue. I will say the primers don't fall out but I can detect a much easier insertion resistance.

That tool looks interesting but I have about 3000 AA cases and I'd hate like hell to do one a time....
 
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