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I'm new to the shotgun world and my first is a Mossberg 590 A1. I will be getting it out of lay away next friday and taking it to Rangemasters for a shotgun course. I will be using it for home defense and hope to become very surgical with it and attend several tactical courses with it. :D
 
Well, I guess he means like those trick shooter kind of guys that bust all those multiple clays.
 
Congratulations on setting up the class, Tom G. runs a first class establishment and you chose well. I just hope you have had some trigger time on a scattergun before you start the class...

Enjoy it,

lpl/nc
 
:D What I meant by surgical was getting my shotgun and myself in such working order as to be able to shoot tight groups with slugs and tweak my gun to blast in tight patterns. Unfortunately I don't have any trigger time behind the Sg its my first the only things I have trigger time behind is a 9mm smith and wesson semi auto and an AR-15. I actually didnt like shotguns for a while because they are not precision weapons but once I saw what one could do I had to have one especially to protect home. By the way I own the Ar-15 that I was speaking of.:cool:
 
Congrats! The 590A1 is my first, and only shotgun. It is a great weapon and should serve you well. Just get a good sling for it. I use one from Eagle Industries with the GG&G side mount for the front.
 
Next friday is the day, I will be the newest owner of a Shotgun I can't wait till payday roll around and I hear that chas register go cha ching. Sadly the money will be leaving my account but happily that 590A1 will be in my hands. I wal also looking at a Benelli nova pump the specail purpose type. I don't know I'm pretty sure I'm getting ahead of myself but hey, future planning. I'm really doing this for home defense because my mother and brother are kinda blank when it comes to self defense and folks like to shoot in my neighborhood so if someone get froggy then they can jump but they are going to be carried out in a body bag. I already have an AR-15 but with the house being built the way it is I'm pretty sure it will go outside and maybe hit someone else but witht he shotgun I can choose a diferent load for the occasion.
 
I just noticed something, I was looking at a couple of Benelli Pumps the nova and super nova and noticed that they mostly have a magazine capacity of 4+1 in the chamber. I think its kinda crazy but mayybe its because Most benelli's are used for hunting I dunno. I know the mossberg 590A1 I'm getting holds 8+1 I was wanting to get a benelli eventually though.
 
Very Surgical, Front Sight

Actually, depending on the load and your training you can get very surgical.

It is a myth that shotguns are not accurate. Sure...they are great for spreading those pellets out there and hitting the bad guy even if your aim is off. However, with a slug, and the proper training you can get very accurate. I train with hostage targets, were only a small portion of the bad guys head is visible...and with a slug I can easliy take the shot at 50-75 yards. Better shooters do it at 75-100 yards.

Of course in real life...that would scare the crap out of me. I'd leave it to a sniper if possible.

Front Sight (www.frontsight.com) offers the best tactical firearms training in the world. There is no argument, somethings are up for debate, the quality of their training isn't. It is amazing. They offer a tactical shotgun course that will literally turn you into a surgeon with a shotgun. They offer select fire assault riffle, handgun, and sniper courses as well.

Some recommendations regarding a tactical shotgun:

1) The shorter the barrel usually the better. Most schools recommend a 18.5" improved cylendar barrel with a simple bead sight. This will allow for a 7 shot magazine extension. As cool as riffle sights and slug sights look, it's easier to use the simple bead (in my humble opinion - and many experts agree).

2) A side saddle to carry your slugs is a must. You'll want one that bolts to either the reciever or the stock. The slip on ones slip off too easily. The ones that attach the receiver require no modification to the gun and are a do it yourself 5 second project.

3) Some sort of tactical light is a must. After all, who breaks in during daylight hours? Surefire makes the brightest, clearest bulbs. You can turn their cheap G2 Nitro into a weapon mounted tactical light by getting a barrel mount and pressure switch from TacStar, but the TecStar flash light is crappy - always go with Surefire. Use good velcro to attact the pressure switch to your forend, the stuff the switch comes with is garbage. The more expensive weapon mounted versions are seriously bad ass if you have the money.

4) A recoil reducing stock from Knoxx.com is a must. I prefer the SpecOps model. It has a pistol grip and telescoping stock that adjusts to fits any shooter perfectly. They are not exadurating about how much this reduces recoil. Which means you wont flinch, which means you'll hit your target like a "surgeon" and get back on target for follow up shots on multiple targets. Do not get the NRS model, it doesn't reduce recoil. Get the regular more expensive version ($100+).

5) A 3-point tactical sling is a must while taking a course, or working a duty shift. The rest of the time, leave it off. If your not going to be holding your shotgun for hours on end, you don't need it. But if you're going to be on your feet with it, give your arms and back a break and get one.

Every other product and accessory out there is a waste of time, they just add weight to the gun. Which you don't want. It's heavy enough. But the ones I mentioned are what make it a "Tactical" shotgun.

Hope this helps. I know there are plenty of people who will disagree. Feel free, that's what makes these forums fun...
 
I am now the owner of a Mossberg 590 A1 with 20 inch barrel and 9 round capacity. I compared trying to move around the house with it and my AR15 carbine and the carbine is a hell of alot easier to get around with than the Mossberg but I would sacrafice the ease of movement for stopping power anyday with my 00 buck rounds I know I will bring any bad guy to his last breath.:D
 
The Mossberg 500-series are fine HD shotguns

If I were starting all over again, that would probably be my first choice. Once you get out of debt (buying/building a house is a pain in the wallet), then you can start looking at nice doudle-barreled shotguns. I've got a couple, and they're treasures.

I had a nice .22 Mossberg single-shot rifle, but someone (I know who) absconded with it. Then again, he left an equally nice Savage .22 single-shot here and forgot about it.

Then again, I'm retired and I'm still collecting toys! :)
 
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