shooting through drywall

mannyCA

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I did a quick video shooting various SD ammunition through drywall for my club in an attempt to hopefully settle some discussion, but I think its going to ferment more opinions.
At 12 yards the birdshot through the Rem 870 opened up too much and took out the “wall”.
Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqETMARQ8xk
 
Can you summarize your results? Without a summary, this thread may be closed by the mods for being a drive-by. Also, a summary would help those of us on mobile connections who don't want to load a YouTube video.
 
Summary: all ammo used went through 4 sheets of drywall.


This is essentially what the "Box Of Truth" website showed.

The one thing I wonder about is how angled shots perform as opposed to shooting solely from 90 degrees. At 45 degrees or less the thickness of the drywall is almost doubled, the odds you'd hit a stud (placed every 16") are greater, and there could possibly be a more pronounced tumble from some bullets.
 
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great suggestion! The next round of tests will involve angles and greater distances. BTW, I'll be uploading a wrap up discussion video this week.:)

No drive by's here, just trying to give back to the firearms community.:cool:
 
True Frangible ammo will NOT come apart unless it hits something harder then itself. It is designed to reduce to dust on impact with steel tgts and backstops in shoothouses

Constructed of powder compressed into shape it allows you to shoot without risk of ricochet.

In anything softer it acts as a solid projectile
 
quick wrap-up/discussion video is up in cased anyone is interested, going to try some 40 cal frangibles since they're the only ones I've got at the moment. stay tuned.:)
 
Perhaps you meant "fOment" instead of "ferment" opinions. Opinions generally don't actually ferment, unless discussed exhaustively at happy hour.
 
The folks who dismiss birdshot are thinking what it does at the distances for wing shooting.
At home defense distance, it's quite a different matter.
Thanks for the test and video.
 
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I worked with a man that was shot with birdshot across a small bedroom with a single barrel 12 gauge. He took the shotgun away from the guy and beat him to death with it before he called 911. He had to have extensive surgery and lost half his stomach but he lived. Maybe a rare instance but I'll stick with 00 JIC.
 
The folks who dismiss birdshot are thinking what it does at the distances for wing shooting.
At home defense distance, it's quite a different matter.
Birdshot is a terrible choice for anything bigger than a rabbit, no matter how often the myth is recycled
 
The physics of birdshot says different.
But don't take my word, check the evidence of those who have done the tests.
It's not my idea, I'm just relaying the message.
According to them the effectiveness of birdshot depends on how many pellets hit the target.
The energy of each pellet in the round is divided up by the total number of pellets.
Not all that much for each one.
However,
At home defense distance, probably measured in mere feet, there's very little spread.
Most all of them hit together, simulating a single projectile, sometimes even including the wad.
Maybe something like a "cut" round.
That's what they say.
From my own tests, it looks correct.
Maybe not the best end all choice for a home defense round, but nothing feeble about it.
Also consider what fast, multiple rounds would do.
If birdshot was all that was available, no reason to think it was useless.
Remember, we're considering home defense distances, like in a bedroom, not engaging small game at twenty yards.
 
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If you got it, use it, for sure.
If not, it doesn't look like we're helpless with mere birdshot.
If the shotgun is kept unloaded for some reason, and it's dark, maybe ya' pick up the wrong load.
So, in the final analysis what is more important, the ammo or the shooter?
And the less we miss, the less the consideration if our rounds go though walls must become.
Just a thought.
 
I have one by the bed and it is always loaded and chambered. Rounds going through walls is of no consequence. Shot wiring maybe.:D
 
I just want to throw this out there for some to chew on. Birdshot is a loosely used term for anything smaller than buckshot. It ranges in size from a Lil bigger than a .177 Cal bb down to #8 shot if you buy it at local stores. I have a jug of #12 which I belive is the same as rat shot. Never seen a commercially loaded shotgun round with anything smaller than #9 which is hard to find itsself. Another thing to consider is the wad. Some are made to hold the shot together longer and some are made to open immediately. Comparing bird shot is not done enough n my opinion. The choke you use also plays a role in this just as much as the range of your target. I personally use a 18 inch barrel with cylinder bore, means no choke at all, with a lightly recoiling load and I mix the pellets up with 1/8 ounce of #6, 1/8 of #9 and half ounce of #12. Very little recoil and at 12 feet it almost entirely covers a 4x8 sheet of plywood. I can't imagen any human walking thru 8 shots of that to get me. Maybe if on drugs but at that point he's going to look like he went thru a meat grinder and if he does get away there will b plenty of da evidence for the cops to catch him later. Yes I do have a 45 next to the bed and ol lady has hers on her side of the bed. If I walk into the yard at night im prepared for that too. But seriously folks just going to wally world and picking up a box of birdshot or buckshot isn't always what you want. I have 4 kids in my house at night and I like small pellets that don't over penetrate. I will meet and greet the threat while my wife brings a Lil more firepower
 
I agree to disagree with some of you.

Birdshot in my opinion is a perfectly adequate Home Defense cartridge at normal distances encountered in Houses or Apartments.

As to will it penetrate walls - I am certain it will. Will it penetrate as deeply as Buckshot or Slugs - not hardly. But everything is relative to distance, exact wall construction, angle of shot, plus I am sure a few other things I can't think of now.

Regards,

Rob
 
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