Shooting a 1911 w/a Scope

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EQUALIZER

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I plan to buy a 2.5-8X weaver scope for precision target shooting and hunting white tail (45 Super of course). I didn't want to mar the frame by drilling and tapping the dust cover, so I want to know about any experiences w/the Aimpoint grip mount. You know,...the kind that mounts on the side of the grip, using the grip panel screws and pin holes for securing, so that you don't need to drill and tap the dust cover.
I want it for precision target Won't use the scope much of the time, but DO want to be able to trust my scope to stay put.

One person said grip mounts move, while several others recommend them. I need to place an order by next week. Any opinions/ experiences?

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For a long time, the scope mounts that replaced either of the stocks was the only want to put a scope on a 1911. They worked well for a long time and should work well for your intents.

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I have a redfield mount which I think is pretty much identical to the aimpoint. I use it with a propoint on my kimber classic custom. The mount seems to stay rock solid but I did notice when I removed the mount to thoroughly clean my gun, some light scuffing on the frame of my kimber. Also if you have adjustable sights on your 1911 they may not clear the aimpoint mount when you remove the slide for cleaning.I had a ciener .22 conversion with millet adjustable sights and they barely would hit the aimpoint when you would remove the conversion slide. The stock kimber non-adjustable sights were no problem. You can even still use the iron sights with the scope mount on.
 
Grip mounts are easy to install but they are intrinsically the least accurate way to scope a 1911. Not only do the grips move around a little bit but the scope is "twice removed" from the barrel. What I mean by that is (1) the barrel moves within the slide and (2) the slide moves on the frame. Since all these things lockup slightly different from shot to shot you may have a hard time zeroing your pistol much past 35 yards, you may even find you can shoot more accuracy with iron sights than with the scope.

Compared to a scope that mounts to the receiver the grip mount has twice as many variables that can effect accuracy. A properly custom fitted 1911 will minimize the inaccuracies since they tend to lockup the same way every time. Kinda off topic but a T/C Contender has the scope mounted directly to the barrel, there's no movement at all, that's why their capable of shooting 1" groups at 100 yds with pistol cartridges most people would consider an only capable of 2" at 25 in a semi auto.

Having said all that check out Brownells for 1911 mounts. They probably have a dozen different ones including 3 or 4 grip mounts. Good luck with the deer hunting, let us know how it turns out. I've thought about converting my stainless Combat Commander to .45 Super for that very reason. -- Kernel
 
Thanks for the info guys.
The pistol should be tight presentation grade machine when the project is complete. I've heard, but not yet shot, about 1911s with red dot scopes mounted on the slide. Gives the slide more mass, therefore giving it more time for the bullet to exit before disengagement.
Since this w/be a presentation grade weapon (hopefully) when finished, I think I'll pass on doing any major modifications to the slide or frame until I've had a chance to try out one of the grip mounts. If its not satisfactory, maybe I'll go the other route and get a stradle type mount.

Any other opinions are welcome.
 
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