Buy a Pedersoli shoot the riflings out of it(in 20 years), buy another and you still haven't the money invested or the wait on a Shiloh. My Pedersoli would outshoot my Shiloh any day of the week. I didn't have to wait on my Shiloh as I got it used at a gunshow, but it would not hold a candle to the Pedersoli I bought used from a friend.