Daniel BOON
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what has to be done on a series 110 mdl savage to go from 30-06 to 338-06? is it a difficult or high cost switch?
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series 110 savage
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Harry Bonar
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savage
Sir:
As you know the groove diameter on your 30-06 is .308 thousandths. the groove diameter on the 338 is .338 thousandths. The cheapest thing you can do is order an Adams & Bennet 338-06 bbl. from Midway USA and either fit it yourself or have a smith do it. Your bolt face will need no change because you're using the 30-06 head size. I doubt the magazine box needs a change - and the 338-06 is a wonderful cartridge - there are no flies on it at all. After all, it is the standard 30-06 case necked up to take 338 dia. bullets!
Fitting one to a Savage is really simple. Just follow the directions that come with the bbl. and you're home free with a new 338-06!
I like the Savage rifle and action! I also have built, in the past, a number of 338-06s' - ammo is avaliable from Weatherby or A-Square who standardized this cartridge with SAAMI. It is easy to shoot and gives up hardly anything to the 338 Win. Mag! Chub Eastman killed his grizzly at 19 feet with one shot! This is perhaps one of the most often used and one of the best matched of all the "wildcats" (now standardized by A-Square in SAAMI) It is a great round to re-load for too.
Harry B.
P.S. The last modification I did was on a Savage action was from 300 Win. Mag. to 416 Taylor, it worked beautifully.
Sir:
As you know the groove diameter on your 30-06 is .308 thousandths. the groove diameter on the 338 is .338 thousandths. The cheapest thing you can do is order an Adams & Bennet 338-06 bbl. from Midway USA and either fit it yourself or have a smith do it. Your bolt face will need no change because you're using the 30-06 head size. I doubt the magazine box needs a change - and the 338-06 is a wonderful cartridge - there are no flies on it at all. After all, it is the standard 30-06 case necked up to take 338 dia. bullets!
Fitting one to a Savage is really simple. Just follow the directions that come with the bbl. and you're home free with a new 338-06!
I like the Savage rifle and action! I also have built, in the past, a number of 338-06s' - ammo is avaliable from Weatherby or A-Square who standardized this cartridge with SAAMI. It is easy to shoot and gives up hardly anything to the 338 Win. Mag! Chub Eastman killed his grizzly at 19 feet with one shot! This is perhaps one of the most often used and one of the best matched of all the "wildcats" (now standardized by A-Square in SAAMI) It is a great round to re-load for too.
Harry B.
P.S. The last modification I did was on a Savage action was from 300 Win. Mag. to 416 Taylor, it worked beautifully.
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Daniel BOON
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thank you Harry
I think I'll give it a shot. I'm not much of a gun doctor so I'll get the local 'smith to do it. thanks again.
I think I'll give it a shot. I'm not much of a gun doctor so I'll get the local 'smith to do it. thanks again.
338-06Asquare
Be ready to pay about ~$50.00 for a box of Weatherby Asquare ammo (qty-20).Even the brass from Miday was $1.21 a piece .....I love my 338-06 Weatherby ....but it is not as cheap to shoot as my 30-06 is .....even 210 grain partitioned Nosler ammo ran ~$50.00 bucks for 50 bullets..
I could reload using 30-06 brass,but I read somewhere that the Asquare brass is better built??? and I don't want to be mixing my 338-06 ammo with my 30-06 ammo ,so 2 different well marked head stamped ammo was needed....my 2cents BB34
Be ready to pay about ~$50.00 for a box of Weatherby Asquare ammo (qty-20).Even the brass from Miday was $1.21 a piece .....I love my 338-06 Weatherby ....but it is not as cheap to shoot as my 30-06 is .....even 210 grain partitioned Nosler ammo ran ~$50.00 bucks for 50 bullets..
I could reload using 30-06 brass,but I read somewhere that the Asquare brass is better built??? and I don't want to be mixing my 338-06 ammo with my 30-06 ammo ,so 2 different well marked head stamped ammo was needed....my 2cents BB34
Harry Bonar
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338-06
Sirs:
Yea! The brass for 9.3X62, 9.3X64 and 416 Taylor I got from A-Square and it is good brass marked with the right headstamp. However, two boxes of brass for each will last me a lifetime cause I reload for everything.
Brass for the 9.3X62 can be made from 30-06 but needs fire-formed, for the 9.3X64 I must live with the A-Square I've got. For the 416 Taylor it can be run through a 416 Taylor die and you've got it!
As to whether A-Square is best - it's probably amoung the very best - RWS also has brass, not quite as expensive. I know it's expensive.
But, for the 338-06 you can run 30-06 through the die set and that's what I've always done. I like that cartridge (I like most all) it is really a nice round. On my rifles I used to make I'd cut the butt at right angles to the bore line and use a Limbsaver pad. Really helps recoil - but these rifles mentioned aren't a problem anyway. Medium bore, heavy bullet, modest velocity rifles really don't have enough recoil to speak of.
Harry B.
Sirs:
Yea! The brass for 9.3X62, 9.3X64 and 416 Taylor I got from A-Square and it is good brass marked with the right headstamp. However, two boxes of brass for each will last me a lifetime cause I reload for everything.
Brass for the 9.3X62 can be made from 30-06 but needs fire-formed, for the 9.3X64 I must live with the A-Square I've got. For the 416 Taylor it can be run through a 416 Taylor die and you've got it!
As to whether A-Square is best - it's probably amoung the very best - RWS also has brass, not quite as expensive. I know it's expensive.
But, for the 338-06 you can run 30-06 through the die set and that's what I've always done. I like that cartridge (I like most all) it is really a nice round. On my rifles I used to make I'd cut the butt at right angles to the bore line and use a Limbsaver pad. Really helps recoil - but these rifles mentioned aren't a problem anyway. Medium bore, heavy bullet, modest velocity rifles really don't have enough recoil to speak of.
Harry B.
Harry,
Since you've got experience with the .338-'06 (I don't), I'd be interested to hear how you think it compares to the .35 Whelen? Advantages and disadvantages? Looking at bullet selection, I assume the mostly same-weight bullets available for the two will fly a little further in the smaller bore (better BC's).
Since the .30-06 case can be safely formed up to take .358 bullets in the Whelen, I'm not sure why there should be special concern for taking it up to .338? A 0.014" neck wall will thin out to 0.012" when expanded that far, which is perfectly acceptable. Sinclair makes a die body for their steel outside neck turning mandrels that allows you to use them to open necks up. If you have reloading dies for .338-'06, this may be the most inexpensive way to bring '06 brass up to size before shooting? A neck annealing session might be in order.
Since you've got experience with the .338-'06 (I don't), I'd be interested to hear how you think it compares to the .35 Whelen? Advantages and disadvantages? Looking at bullet selection, I assume the mostly same-weight bullets available for the two will fly a little further in the smaller bore (better BC's).
Since the .30-06 case can be safely formed up to take .358 bullets in the Whelen, I'm not sure why there should be special concern for taking it up to .338? A 0.014" neck wall will thin out to 0.012" when expanded that far, which is perfectly acceptable. Sinclair makes a die body for their steel outside neck turning mandrels that allows you to use them to open necks up. If you have reloading dies for .338-'06, this may be the most inexpensive way to bring '06 brass up to size before shooting? A neck annealing session might be in order.