Serial numbers - Remington Rand Govt .45
- Thread starter AZkimber
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The only serial number on a Remington Rand 1911 is on the frame. There are no other serial numbers. What the guy is probably seeing is a Federal Drawing Number (sometimes erroneously referred to as a Federal Stock Number). Barrels were never serial numbered. Your buyer is either not 1911 savvy or he's trying to blow smoke up your rear.
If it is a number other than a Federal number, it was applied by someone.
If it is a number other than a Federal number, it was applied by someone.
polyphemus
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Could you provide a reference for these barrel markings on WW2 Remington Rands? as far my research on the subject goes there were no ID numbers on them.
2ndsojourn
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Check out the 1911 gallery (left side of page) on this site.
http://coolgunsite.com/
Some of the guns shown may have some info of interest to you.
Edit: Also check out the ID page. There's tons of info about markings.
http://coolgunsite.com/
Some of the guns shown may have some info of interest to you.
Edit: Also check out the ID page. There's tons of info about markings.
polyphemus
New member
Thank you,I have in the past visited that site.
But I had a specific request regarding some kind of federal numbered markings on the barrel,proof markings are different.
But I had a specific request regarding some kind of federal numbered markings on the barrel,proof markings are different.
Barrel numbers
The numbers on the two barrels I had were seven digit numbers and they were different numbers. Both were different than the serial number on the frame.
I told the guy I had never heard of another serial number, other than that on the frame. He called a friend who told him the numbers should match.
After discussing for awhile, I was ready to just forget the whole thing. But, he knew it was a good deal and clean gun so he took it.
I just want to be ready for any more BS about the numbers.
Thanks to you all!!
The numbers on the two barrels I had were seven digit numbers and they were different numbers. Both were different than the serial number on the frame.
I told the guy I had never heard of another serial number, other than that on the frame. He called a friend who told him the numbers should match.
After discussing for awhile, I was ready to just forget the whole thing. But, he knew it was a good deal and clean gun so he took it.I just want to be ready for any more BS about the numbers.
Thanks to you all!!
Federal Drawing numbers are on replacement barrels and were installed in the gun sometime long after it was first issued. It could have been a depot level overhaul which were done in the 50s-70s, as a lot of these guns were reissued in Korea, then Vietnam.
Depending on which number is on the barrel, it could also be a so-called "match" barrel. At any rate, that number you are seeing had nothing to do with the Remington Rand pistol as originally issued.
It's an easy enough task to make things "right" if you so choose. Just look around for a correct WWII issue barrel, perhaps a High Standard, and replace the barrel that's in the gun now.
Look at this link: http://www.model1911a1.com/Remington.htm
You can also look at a copy of Clawson's book on the service .45s.
OMG! "He called a friend." His friend is just as ignorant/unethical as he is, and it looks like they were both trying very hard to blow smoke up your butt.
The ONLY Colts that EVER had "matching numbers" (other than the Argentine contract) were actual Colts that had the serial number of the frame stamped under the firing pin stop plate from ca. 1937 (?) to 1943.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I can handle questions and comments, but it really p#$@%& me off when they start talking the gun down to get a better price. Like I said, I was ready to tell him to forget it, I'll sell it to someone else. But he took it. The Bill of Sale has "sold as is" on it so it's a done deal. He got a nice gun considering the age!!
I can handle questions and comments, but it really p#$@%& me off when they start talking the gun down to get a better price. Like I said, I was ready to tell him to forget it, I'll sell it to someone else. But he took it. The Bill of Sale has "sold as is" on it so it's a done deal. He got a nice gun considering the age!!