Semi-automatic .410 shotgun pistol
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Jim Watson
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Unless they made it a fake .45 like the Judge, it would be a shotpistol and therefore heavily regulated in the USA. And where would you put the magazine? Out front like a Broomhandle Mauser? Or do you have hands big enough to wrap around a stack of .410s?
whippoorwill
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Maybe chronic has just given Taurus an idea for its next pistol. Might even be NRA's next handgun of the year!!
Something close to that has already been tried, the Striker / Street Sweeper. It's now a NFA (class 3) weapon.
http://www.lakesideguns.com/c3gallery/sweepers.html
Jim
http://www.lakesideguns.com/c3gallery/sweepers.html
Jim
IIRC, the "Street Sweeper" wasn't a semiauto. It was basically a manual repeater which had a revolving drum magazine operated by the trigger pull, much the same way as in a conventional DA revolver. Not sure whether it was reclassified as a "Destructive Device" or "Any Other Weapon", but they aren't self-loaders.
What Jim said, in spades. I'd sure hate to be the engineer who got stuck with that little project.
What Jim said, in spades. I'd sure hate to be the engineer who got stuck with that little project.
zombieslayer
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The Judge can't even eject shells reliably, I doubt anyone could get a semiauto to eject them very well. my 2cents
chris in va
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Might get close to that goal by converting a Saiga 410...
Its a neat idea, but..........
Here are the disadvantages (and only the ones that come to mind off the top of my head,
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1) Sheer size! Any self loader built to handle the 2.5" .410 (let alone the 3") is going to have to be huge compared to regular handguns, most likely larger than the Desert Eagle, and this will instantly remove it from the ordinary self defense class.
2) The magazine will have to be located somewhere other than the pistol grip. That will legally make the gun an assault weapon (note the term) in California, and some other jurisdictions. They are so fanatic about this that California even denied a teenage girl who was practicing for the Olympics her .22 match pistol, because the 5 rnd magazine was located in front of the trigger guard. Her Senator's response to a request for exemption was a compassionate "find another sport!"
3) practical functioning. The barrel would have to be rifled, to comply with Federal law, which does not do good things for the shot pattern. Although there are ways to mitigate this, it still reduces the effectiveness of the gun with shot. Also, are you thinking of making it a .45 Colt/.410 like the Judge? Big problem there. Autoloaders can be made in any caliber, and made to function properly, BUT making one able to function with two such widely different length rounds would be an incredible engineeering challenge. It might be possible, but it will take a lot of work, if it can even be done!.
Just at a glance, all I can see is a gun that is too big for CCW, no advantage for field use, and illegal in many places. Don't think you could sell too many of them, except as novelty items.
Here are the disadvantages (and only the ones that come to mind off the top of my head,
)1) Sheer size! Any self loader built to handle the 2.5" .410 (let alone the 3") is going to have to be huge compared to regular handguns, most likely larger than the Desert Eagle, and this will instantly remove it from the ordinary self defense class.
2) The magazine will have to be located somewhere other than the pistol grip. That will legally make the gun an assault weapon (note the term) in California, and some other jurisdictions. They are so fanatic about this that California even denied a teenage girl who was practicing for the Olympics her .22 match pistol, because the 5 rnd magazine was located in front of the trigger guard. Her Senator's response to a request for exemption was a compassionate "find another sport!"
3) practical functioning. The barrel would have to be rifled, to comply with Federal law, which does not do good things for the shot pattern. Although there are ways to mitigate this, it still reduces the effectiveness of the gun with shot. Also, are you thinking of making it a .45 Colt/.410 like the Judge? Big problem there. Autoloaders can be made in any caliber, and made to function properly, BUT making one able to function with two such widely different length rounds would be an incredible engineeering challenge. It might be possible, but it will take a lot of work, if it can even be done!.
Just at a glance, all I can see is a gun that is too big for CCW, no advantage for field use, and illegal in many places. Don't think you could sell too many of them, except as novelty items.