semi auto 12 ga with clip

boatmonkey82

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call me dumb here but does anyone make a 12ga semi auto that can take a 10-20-30 or drum clips? or is there some stupid law forbiding such ?
 
They tend to be banned as destructive devices with no sporting purposes. The Saiga for whatever reason has escaped this fate. Maybe it is because of the hunting stock who knows. They are fun shotguns though. Here is mine:

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You can add a Knoxx sidewinder conversion to Mossberg. Not sure of the round count, but it does gives you the detachable mag capability.
 
Currently your only choice is the Saiga series. Sometimes you can find a USAS-12 on GunBroker, but it's a DD and you'll pay out the nose :(

Valtro makes/made a magazine fed shotgun, but I've never been able to find anyone who imports it or even has one.


In pump guns, the Monolith P-12 had a lot of potential and was scheduled for production in 2009, but it's been 'delayed until the political climate stabilizes' aka: we won't tool up until we are certain our mega-dollars aren't going to be made useless with a ban.

I put 70-rounds through a USAS-12 earlier this week, had all the kick of a 5.56 :D
 
They tend to be banned as destructive devices with no sporting purposes. The Saiga for whatever reason has escaped this fate. Maybe it is because of the hunting stock who knows.

The Saigas are not classified as a DD by the ATF because they are sold in a "sporting" configuration and are not offered with factory high-capacity magazines (the 10 and 20 rounders are all aftermarket). I remember reading somewhere that the ATF said they wouldn't re-classify something based solely on aftermarket parts (the other detatchabe mag shotguns were never offered from the factory in so-called "sporting" configurations and were therefore deemed by the ATF to have no "sporting purpose").
 
The Saiga-12 is about your only choice --- mine has shot hundreds of rds. of Buck,Slugs and Birdshot and I've not had a single malfunction.
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I love my saiga 12 and add on the 20rd drum it makes for some happy times until it is time to reload and buy more ammo :( .

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call me dumb here but does anyone make a 12ga semi auto that can take a 10-20-30 or drum clips? or is there some stupid law forbiding such ?
It's a magazine, not a clip.

Magazines have springs, clips do not.
 
I don't see the purpose.
Because its there. Fun. Whatever. There is no purpose for most of the firearm variants out there.

That said - I have seen some Saigas in 3-gun competition where the shotgun stages are won and lost on reloading speed. Drop mag/insert full mag is much faster than stuffing them in the tube one at a time.

Lee
 
while im genertally not a fan of AK based Weaponry, i have found myself wanting a Saiga 12 as well as a remington autoloader.



also lipadj46, where did you get that stock?
 
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the other detachable mag shotguns were never offered from the factory in so-called "sporting" configurations and were therefore deemed by the ATF to have no "sporting purpose"

funny, I don't remember the words "sporting purpose" in the second amendment...
 
I don't see the purpose.

Deer hunting and turkey hunting with mine, what is the point of your shotgun? The Saigas have a chrome lined bore and barrel, are more or less indestructible, pretty much require no maintenance and can be completely field stripped in seconds with no tools. What more do you want, wood?
 
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the other detachable mag shotguns were never offered from the factory in so-called "sporting" configurations and were therefore deemed by the ATF to have no "sporting purpose"

funny, I don't remember the words "sporting purpose" in the second amendment...

I don't either, but apparently the BATFE does:barf:
 
funny, I don't remember the words "sporting purpose" in the second amendment...

That is really a moot point because we miss out on a lot of cool stuff because the powers to be think that there is no real purpose to owning them. The street sweeper shotgun is one. I believe the .50 BMG will be the next to go.
 
So does that mean there is no "Sporting Purpose" for my Tromix modified Saiga 12 ? With the folding stock, pistol grip, vertical front grip, shortened barrel w/ flash hider (just on the legal limit) and a stack of 10 round magizines it sure looks mean. I'm sure there must be a purpose beyond home defense. My local club runs a shotgun division in it's monthly steel shoot. I think I will try that as a "sporting purpose".
 
The Saiga is based on the AK design - ported to 12 gauge.

They are amazingly light weight. I have not yet had the chance to fire one. Typically, the price is around $500-600 or so.

Self defense yes, but I can see possible skeet shooting.
 
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