Sell or Unsell me, an Early-in-Life Fan of HK, on an HK P30S in ~3 years from now

Gunnut17

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The first 9mm I fired, in fact, the first and one of two pistols I have in my lifetime, was a HK P30L V3, for my 14th Birthday "present" of a few hours out of town in the Los Lunas, NM desert where using the desert as ad hoc firing range without Range Officers beyond adults as people with gun rights and ownership (Obviously most people there at the time of this day, me and my younger sister were among the few, if any, children as young as we are in the grand scheme of things, me being currently 18.) present and prone as they might be to scrutinize rules such as 1 pull of the trigger per second, so on and so forth.

That said, I've become of the opinion in about five years since then that the P30L, while a fun gun back then, and good for the LE use HK developed it originally for, is too long and too front heavy for use as a general purpose/first handgun, (The so-called premium on German engineering that dictates HK's general markup compared to Walther, SIG, and most American companies that are comparably well renowned.) a bad idea. Plus, given the years it's been since I've held, much less fired or had control of a loaded, firearm, (Five years at the most, about a year at the least for holding or controlling unloaded firearms.) I do not have the self-instilled trust that I not accidentally violate one of the four gun safety tenets with irreversibly horrible consequences without some form of manual safety, the V3 having none, afaik, given the fact the P30 and P2000 had the decocker button rather than the decocker/safety the USP, HK45 and MK23 had at their initial release in most models, and HK deemed it not a crucial feature on a decocker-featuring handgun to have a manual safety. Especially with manual safeties somewhat controversial for concealed carry or home defense given Murphy's Law's inherent assumptions about what a mechanical device having more parts makes more likely to fail, if nothing else, on the part of operator error if there exists a binary switch with can decide if a gun fires or not depending on a given gun owner's own muscle memory and training.

Basically, if you own or have owned the P30 or its various variants, including the SK despite me not being personally a fan of that or the P2000SK for various reasons, go ahead and let me know here and now.

Cheers.
 
I have a P30LS in 9MM that I have had since November 2013 and it is one of my top favorite handguns. I rarely use the safety but wanted the short slide stop levers that come with the safety models. The safety is very robust and a very positive click when engaging or disengaging. If I did want to use the safety full time I am confident it would work well and be easy to do so. If you want a DA/SA pistol with a manual safety IMO the P30 is an outstanding choice. Your best bet is to at least handle one to see how it works for you while gripping and ideally shooting with both hands. Some do not like the way a particular pistol with safety feels when shooting.
 
Gunnut17,
I read through your post three times and it left me wondering if you were trying to covey your stand or asking for alternatives.

For that reason I will work on the latter point of providing you with alternative handgun choices.

It is my considered opinion that your first handgun should be a versatile gun that won't be fussy about ammo, won't jam, fail to fire, fail to feed or have problems of any kind. In short you should get a 4 to 6 inch revolver in 357 Magnum or larger caliber. It is much easier to enjoy a revolver than it is to chase brass and deal with possible problems of a semi-auto pistol. The revolver will teach you target acquisition, sight control, breathing and follow through. You can shoot the revolver knowing that you only have five or six rounds so you will learn to make them count. You can practice with light 38 special loads and as your confidence grows you can upgrade to 38 Spl +P and then on to 357 magnum rounds.

Once you are a proficient shooter you can get a semi-auto and practice accuracy with it in conscious slow fire and start off without the "fun" factor of emptying a magazine just because you have 17 rounds and you are bound to hit the bullseye at least once. You will have already learned to take your time relying on the basics to get all 17 rounds into the tiniest group.

Developing good shooting habits that will out-shadow your natural desire to hit the target with all the rounds and make it natural to shoot deliberately to get all 17 rounds into the center of the bullseye.
 
I'm more pro-purchasing my own P30 v3 one day after my 21st birthday in 2022, but I'm happy to get second opinion.

I've looked at the 4" S&W R8 as a possible choice of first handgun, or first revolver, at least, so I appreciate your advice, Shootist.
 
I rented a P30 V3 at the range a few weeks ago because i was considering buying a .40 version (can be had for $600 new)

I was impressed with quality and level of build, but i just didnt like the trigger. I am use to much lighter, shorter, and crisper triggers. The trigger made it a no-go for me

I tell you what though, check out the walther PPQ, fine, fine handgun. Very reliable, very accurate, suberb trigger, great ergos, fanrastic build quality. I decided to not buy anothwr handgun and i am getting reloading supplies/tools instead. I am a 1911 guy and decided to hang onto the one pistol i have
 
p71pilot: said:
I rented a P30 V3 at the range a few weeks ago because i was considering buying a .40 version (can be had for $600 new)

I was impressed with quality and level of build, but i just didnt like the trigger. I am use to much lighter, shorter, and crisper triggers. The trigger made it a no-go for me

I tell you what though, check out the walther PPQ, fine, fine handgun. Very reliable, very accurate, suberb trigger, great ergos, fanrastic build quality. I decided to not buy anothwr handgun and i am getting reloading supplies/tools instead. I am a 1911 guy and decided to hang onto the one pistol i have

A lot of people don't like the P30 V3 trigger, there is definitely room for improvement on the DA pull, but I'm used to mine, the SA trigger is fine, and the modular handgrip fits my big hands better than any other gun that I have. I think the LEM the way to go with the HK, and I agree on the Walther PPQ
 
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